woltnj

Do you really need the 3.3v converter? I would think the treo could take either 3.3v of 5v signals. Is it required or were you just being safe.

Do you have the wiring diagram that shows which pins are which signals. I have the treo 650 usb cable on order and I am going to hack it the same way you did as soon as I get mine.

SteveNYC

Mines,

I'm looking forward to the details of your conversion like everyone else. But after you're done with that, could you please check and see if Verizon's Wireless Sync application works on the Treo 650? The reason I ask is that everyone else will be able to test all the other apps on 650's activated on Sprint, but the Wireless Sync app is ONLY used on Verizon and I use that application more than any other.

Like I said, the conversion details are the most important. But later on, if you could check the compatability of Verizon's Wireless Sync app, it would be GREATLY appreciated.

GalenMD

Figures. I don't look at this forum for just one day and already mines has got it all worked out! Great job once again.

mines, if you could please post a diagram with a wiring schematic, then any of us could find a way to make a cable. Hey, come to think of it, I still have my old serial cable for the 600. Can that cable be hacked to work with a 650 cable?

Now it's time for me to decide how long to wait before I do this. I really hate not having a solid protection plan. It would be nice to just walk into a store and do an exchange if something went bad with the phone. OTOH, I had a chance to play with a colleague's 650 yesterday. It really is a great improvement. The camera is sooooo much better, I was shocked.

tuctboh

Great work mines. My 650 was shipped yesterday so I should have it tomorrow. Why won't the T600 cable work? Did they change things that much that all my chargers/cables/etc won't work with the 650?

GalenMD

If there was such a thing as an adaptor to convert the old style port to the new style port, maybe we could use our existing serial cables. To my knowledge, no such animal exists.

KenS

Excellent work. Thanks for the informative post. Sounds like it's time for me to upgrade. The high resolution screen is the main draw for me, especially for internet browsing, snappermail, and documents to go.

mines

Ok guys.

Here is ..
Preparation

1) Tungsten T5 USB Datacable
You can buy at ebay.com around $7
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...734792758&rd=1
http://images.auctionhelper.com/imag.../DC%20m500.jpg

2) FutureDial Mobile Phone Data Cable for LG 1200, Models (Cable #19)
You can get it at RadioShack around $20
http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2324.jpg

3) Soldering Iron, Lead

Rock & Roll
1) Open the dongle in the middle of phone data cable.

http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2325.jpg

If the chipset is PL2303, BingGo. This is the USB2Serial Bridge with 3.3V LineDriver.
http://user.chollian.net/~mines/pl2303.pdf

2) Disassemble the Tungsten T5 cable and cut all wire. We need only the connector for Treo650.
http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2331.jpg

3) Now, We need to wire step by step.
http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2327.jpg
http://user.chollian.net/~mines/palmone.pdf

Important points are

PL2303 TX -------- Treo 650 RX
PL2303 RX -------- Treo 650 TX
PL2303 GND ------ Treo 650 GND

Tx and Rx must be connected each other.

http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2326.jpg
http://php.chol.com/~mines/photo/023...LgIMG_2330.jpg

5) Install FutureDial USB2Serial Driver
http://www.futuredial.com/support/do...ficdrivers.zip

6) Install BitPim to get MSL Code. Treo 650 use 115200 bps
http://bitpim.sourceforge.net

cr650

Is there any particular reason why my PST software won't let me write to the phone? Nothing happens when I click "Write to phone".

mattkopko

you can surf the web on verizon? i thought verizon's data plan didn't do web surfing (just email, etc...)
if i'm wrong, that makes me really happy

also, anyone have any concrete details when a LEGIT verizon treo 650 can be expected?

thanks,
matt

trayip

Hey mines and others,

Could anyone actually make cables for us? We would pay you from $50 - $100, and you could purchase the necessary cables and whatnot, and you send us the "Treo 650" cable to set up (since i'm not sure if giving ESN's over the internet is a good idea)?

Tray

cr650

To update my own question: The PST software won't let me change the MSL # to 000000. So now I think I am connecting to Verizon, but any call attempt is immeadiatly dropped. Am I missing a setting? or step?

justin801

Does anyone know what folder under BitPim where I can find the MSL Code?

mines

Well, I have no idea. Please reinstall the software again.

mines

My plan can surf internet without problem.
As I know, Express Network can be available according to the plan and the time you subscribe.

mines

Click on the Filesystem tab and go to nvm --> nvm --> and right click on nvm_0002 and choose Hexdump. You may have to try right clicking on one of the other files (nvm_0003, etc).

Becareful, you can see two 6 digits. First 6 digits is One time Key and second is MSL.

Check this link
FAQ: Activating a TREO 600 on Verizon

mines

Well, You must change the MSL as #000000 and call verizon CS to change ESN.

justin801

Thank you I got the MSL Code. My next problem is the PST Service Pro say "This phone model is not supported" Please help.

mines

I'm not sure Treo 650 can accept over 3.3V singaling.
According to the datasheet, new multiconnector (Tungsten T5 and Treo 650) only accept 3.3V signaling. Treo 600 just described TTL signaling. Voltage is not specified, but it accept general RS-232C signaling.

Is there somebody who connect RS-232C cable to Treo 650 directly? Your treo 650 might be damaged.

mines

I can sell mine.

justin801

Mines, do you know why the PST Service Program saying "This phone model is not supported"