Pre vs HTC Hero - Page 37

wrxdrunkie · 10/27/2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike20PR

i was a winmo user for years till i got the Pre (thank god...) sadly it lacked a lot of features i use regularly like file compressing / decompressing, web downloading (at the time) file management, doc editing etc. and went back to winmo.... hated it since i experienced something as elegant as webOS. So it got me a Hero and to my surprise it does everything i missed from winmo, nice OS like the Pre, tons of apps and runs smoothly without a need for hacks, roms etc. so IMO the Hero has the top spot so far. But no, in my experience with my devices the newest doesnt always mean the best, back when i used winmo i HATED the touch pro but LOVED my HTC Touch for some reason even though the Pro had way better specs, the Touch just worked better....

Hey man thanks a lot for the reply, I am seriously considering switching. Only thing holding me back is the hardware specs, I know I am getting a less powerful processor, but thats really the only thing holding me back. Some videos of the hero I see, it seems very quick, but at other times, videos show it being very slow. That and I am afraid once the Leo comes to the states I will HAVE to have that. Darn, what to do what to do..

Mike20PR · 10/27/2009, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wrxdrunkie

Hey man thanks a lot for the reply, I am seriously considering switching. Only thing holding me back is the hardware specs, I know I am getting a less powerful processor, but thats really the only thing holding me back. Some videos of the hero I see, it seems very quick, but at other times, videos show it being very slow. That and I am afraid once the Leo comes to the states I will HAVE to have that. Darn, what to do what to do..

personally i want the HTC Dragon, the Android twin brother of the HD2.... but im fine with the Hero till it releases (hopefully sprint)

as for the specs..... this is what im aware of (anybody can correct me if im wrong)

Palm Pre - 600mhz CPU clocked at 500mhz with no GPU access

HTC Hero - 528mhz CPU clocked at the full 528mhz and with GPU enabled to help with the rendering...

which one wins???

jhoff80 · 10/27/2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike20PR

personally i want the HTC Dragon, the Android twin brother of the HD2.... but im fine with the Hero till it releases (hopefully sprint)

as for the specs..... this is what im aware of (anybody can correct me if im wrong)

Palm Pre - 600mhz CPU clocked at 500mhz with no GPU access

HTC Hero - 528mhz CPU clocked at the full 528mhz and with GPU enabled to help with the rendering...

which one wins???

Clockspeed means nothing. The Pre's 500mHz is a Cortex A8, which means that it's much faster clock for clock than the Hero's CPU. You'll have to wait for the Droid if you want to see what an A8 looks like in Android.

The comparison is really all about software here (and the GPU usage). webOS has only been out for a few months still and could definitely use some optimization. I haven't used a Hero in person, only seen the videos of it, but it seems to be mostly on par with the Pre, though either Flash or the text resizing makes browser zooming a little laggy, in the videos I've seen.

Mike20PR · 10/27/2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jhoff80

Clockspeed means nothing. The Pre's 500mHz is a Cortex A8, which means that it's much faster clock for clock than the Hero's CPU. You'll have to wait for the Droid if you want to see what an A8 looks like in Android.

The comparison is really all about software here (and the GPU usage). webOS has only been out for a few months still and could definitely use some optimization. I haven't used a Hero in person, only seen the videos of it, but it seems to be mostly on par with the Pre, though either Flash or the text resizing makes browser zooming a little laggy, in the videos I've seen.

thats why i said, correct me if im wrong

thanx for the clearup

PoundSand · 10/27/2009, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by yobgup

Pre >Hero in most areas for me.

The Sense UI is great, but the Pre is more practical. I could not live without multitasking now.

the hero multitasks, but doesn't switch as cleanly from one app to another.

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Originally Posted by Palm PREezy

Also I feel that HERO is so widget based, granted I didn't really play with it for more than 20 minutes at the local sprint store. Widgets are cool but they don't replace useful applications.

i'm unaware of any widget on my g/f's hero that doesn't have an analogous app. if you don't like the widgets, you don't need to use them.

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Its a beauty of a phone though, screen is awesome and the UI looks awesome. Didn't notice any lagginess as mentioned before in some reviews. The PRE edges out the HERO in my eyes based on functionality and usefulness to the power user as opposed to the 'fun' nature of the widget based system of the HERO.

i've got a pre, and just picked up a htc hero for my g/f a week and a half ago on my account, and i think you've got it exactly backwards. the htc has a lot more functionality, while the pre with its slick multi tasking is more 'fun.' there's no functionality (versus slickness) that the pre has or can get that the hero lacks or can get, but the inverse can't be said.

dwang · 10/27/2009, 01:33 AM

Not sure where your getting your info, but android/hero isn't currently using the gpu to accelerate 2d operations.

Beefy · 10/27/2009, 10:41 PM

Had my Hero for a week or so now and still lovin' it. The thing is slick, fast, and incredibly, incredibly customizable. No hardware complaints, no problems with the screen, no software problems.

Really looking forward to the Android 2.0 update coming up in the next few months too.

If you had a way of combining the "card" system from Palm with Android's superior customization (widgeting), you would have an amazing device. As it stands, though, the Pre still lacks too many features for it to be considered more than a beta product.

empathyrus · 10/27/2009, 10:47 PM

I have both phones. The Hero has a lot going for it including a stable OS, slick interface, tons of widgets and available programs. It's ready to rock-n-roll out of the box. However, it's less elegant at multi-tasking and You Tube videos look horrible.

drizek · 10/27/2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike20PR

personally i want the HTC Dragon, the Android twin brother of the HD2.... but im fine with the Hero till it releases (hopefully sprint)

as for the specs..... this is what im aware of (anybody can correct me if im wrong)

Palm Pre - 600mhz CPU clocked at 500mhz with no GPU access

HTC Hero - 528mhz CPU clocked at the full 528mhz and with GPU enabled to help with the rendering...

which one wins???

I run my Pre at 600. http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-...-app-here.html

MilenkoD · 10/27/2009, 11:45 PM

I tried the Hero at the Sprint store the other day. Great build quality and pretty fliud UI. I expected as much and the same with all the HTC's I've owned. However, the Hero just takes me back to thinking I'm running a polished WinMo skin. I can't say exactly what it is but it just doesn't seem so evolutionarily different than WinMo or even Blackberry for that matter.

LurkerX · 10/28/2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Beefy

If you had a way of combining the "card" system from Palm with Android's superior customization (widgeting), you would have an amazing device.

It sounds and looks like the Nokia N900 launching towards mid-late November will pretty much be that.

doublebullout · 10/28/2009, 07:13 AM

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You Tube videos look horrible.

You have to switch the YouTube playback setting from "normal" to "high quality". The factory setting is "normal" for some odd reason.

doublebullout · 10/28/2009, 07:18 AM

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I can't say exactly what it is but it just doesn't seem so evolutionarily different than WinMo or even Blackberry for that matter.

Well, not every evolutionary step is a step forward. Nature is replete with examples of evolutionary deadends and oddities. If it's pretty, but it doesn't really help you stay on top of your day as well, is it evolution that serves a purpose? I'm not saying webOS is the equivalent of the dodo, but evolution for evolution's sake isn't necessarily a worthwhile endeavor.

cardfan · 10/28/2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by doublebullout

You have to switch the YouTube playback setting from "normal" to "high quality". The factory setting is "normal" for some odd reason.

Again, that seems odd to even have a "low" setting.

lost_cause · 10/29/2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cardfan

Again, that seems odd to even have a "low" setting.

It's probably something to do with bandwidth consumption. I don't even use Youtube all that much but in the 18 days I've had the phone, I have burned through 900 MB of data without tethering or excessive streaming. Mind you I would go through 3.5 - 4GB of data on the Pre with wifi tethering.

joehp1 · 10/30/2009, 03:19 PM

Long time Palm user: Organizers and had original 300 flip "smart phone", and 4 others since most recently Treo 755. Was very excited in January when they made the Pre announcement. Been looking at this forum every day since January. Fortunately for me I could not upgrade until this month. Got the Hero last week and there is no turning back. Has everything I could ever want - no hardware and one software issue (text messaging draining battery - which I applied the fix to and it worked).

Just could not see getting the Pre and having to hack it to get SOME of the functions it should have had at launch. Then, the oreo, screen cracking, battery, and signal issues - who needs it! Again, VERY loyal Palm person but they got it wrong with the Pre. I will wait until better hardware/software comes out and hopefully will purchase then. That is IF Palm is still in business or has not been sold.

Seems that this is what many of you loyal Palm customers are saying as well.

MilenkoD · 10/30/2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joehp1

Just could not see getting the Pre and having to hack it to get SOME of the functions it should have had at launch.

sounds like you have to "hack" you Hero for the battery drain issue.

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Then, the oreo

Fixed, a long time ago.

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screen cracking

Rare, but units are replaced when they are. Rare that a Sprint store would not.

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battery

Goes all day for most everyone

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and signal issues

YMMV, depends where in the Sprint network you are. Same would apply to the Hero

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Seems that this is what many of you loyal Palm customers are saying as well.

No, not many, some... most are WinMo converts.

That said, the Hero is a nice piece of harware/soeftware. I think I like my Pre better...for now.

THETRUTH · 10/30/2009, 05:14 PM

Just throwing out a fyi. Not to anybody in particular. There was some question about the pre browser being faster. That is wrong. Disable javascript and gears settings and the hero will render faster. I have been testing my pre and hero with wifi and the hero beats it. Also at 129.00 with reward zone 50 discount is there any question left.

awrnsmn · 10/30/2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by THETRUTH

Just throwing out a fyi. Not to anybody in particular. There was some question about the pre browser being faster. That is wrong. Disable javascript and gears settings and the hero will render faster. I have been testing my pre and hero with wifi and the hero beats it. Also at 129.00 with reward zone 50 discount is there any question left.

Thanks for the tip, I will try that.

GeekLee · 10/30/2009, 05:40 PM

I made the switch also from pre to hero, I was just going to try the hero out for one week before my 30 days were up. However the more I had it in my possession the more I fell in love with it. Everyone talks about lagg. Honestly, I have not experience it yet. I enjoyed my pre when i had it, I missed the multitasking abilities. But the more you use the hero the more I can multitask at a fair pace. The advantage is customization..... I'm gonna throw this out there because I honestly believe this ........... mobile world ......ANDROID IS TAKING OVER....Goodbye Precentral.....It was fun.....