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			<title>Treo 650 Booting Android</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:44:13 GMT</pubDate>
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I just saw this on the front page of TreoCentral.  Any chance of any further development on this?</description>
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			<title>I seem to be in deep doo doo...</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:44:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I need some help, mybe I can find it here among you all...  
My pc crashed on me.  I had backed up all my files including Palm Desktop with all my contacts , calendar entries et al.  Sinjce I have converted to a MAC and low and behold when I tried to upload the Palm desktop data... it is not...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I need some help, mybe I can find it here among you all... <br />
My pc crashed on me.  I had backed up all my files including Palm Desktop with all my contacts , calendar entries et al.  Sinjce I have converted to a MAC and low and behold when I tried to upload the Palm desktop data... it is not recognized and comes up as a unix un readable file.   Furthermore, I figured I'd find my disc and just down load the Palm Desktop app and sync my treo 650 (that i've been holding onto for years!) an whaddayaknow....my trusted treo crashes out on me too!  It is in a perpetual reeboot loop. Now I've seemed to have lost all that data!:mad:<br />
Hopefully there are people who will read this waaay smarter than I that can possibly help me in my plight?!?!?  Any thoughts or suggestions?!?<br />
I am desperate.  I've got a lot of info in there.<br />
Thanks in advance!<br />
C-</div>

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			<title>Texts dissapearing after a set period</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:27:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[My 650 has recently developed an odd problem. Texts from one number seems to be "purged" after a short period, originally a week but after I deleted the Messages file, this is now up to two weeks. Seems to only happen to one number. 
 
Apart from deleting the Messages file, I tried to setup a new...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>My 650 has recently developed an odd problem. Texts from one number seems to be &quot;purged&quot; after a short period, originally a week but after I deleted the Messages file, this is now up to two weeks. Seems to only happen to one number.<br />
<br />
Apart from deleting the Messages file, I tried to setup a new address book entry for the number but this didn't make a difference.<br />
<br />
What could cause this?<br />
<br />
P.S. This number happens to be the only number I get frequent messages from, suppose it could be a max number of messages rolling them over rather than a time period, but still can't figure out why this would happen.<br />
<br />
P.P.S. Just remembered this started happening about the same time as I changed provider as well, don't think that would do anything though...<br />
<br />
Thanks</div>

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			<title>random rebooting</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:03:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Anyone have random rebooting of their phone? Can't figure out what it is & Treo support wants to do a hard reset & erase all data.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Anyone have random rebooting of their phone? Can't figure out what it is &amp; Treo support wants to do a hard reset &amp; erase all data.</div>

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			<title>data transfer of sms messages</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:52:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know a way to transfer SMS (text messages) from one treo 650 to a new treo 650? Normal transfer seems to do contacts, calendar, & tasks, but that's it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Does anyone know a way to transfer SMS (text messages) from one treo 650 to a new treo 650? Normal transfer seems to do contacts, calendar, &amp; tasks, but that's it.</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[When the camera doesn't shoot...]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:28:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Recently acquired a Treo 650 and am v. happy with it but I am puzzled by the camera's behaviour. 
 
At times, when I press the shutter button the camera fails to shoot but instead beeps and calls up the 'Alerts' (blank) page.  Press Done button and it returns to the active camera.  Might it be a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Recently acquired a Treo 650 and am v. happy with it but I am puzzled by the camera's behaviour.<br />
<br />
At times, when I press the shutter button the camera fails to shoot but instead beeps and calls up the 'Alerts' (blank) page.  Press Done button and it returns to the active camera.  Might it be a response to low light?  If so it works erratically. <br />
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Is there an official or otherwise 650 manual beyond the 'User Guide'.  Something that might answer this sort of question?</div>

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			<title>treo 650 freeze overnight reboot loop custom rom randomly</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:50:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This is my very first topic and post, but I'm not a neewbie. I was just waiting to learn some "know-how" so I can help others (I thing this is the main purpose of any human). 
 
I had that issue too. Every time I left treo (witch is rare!!:D) for a more long time without working on it, it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This is my very first topic and post, but I'm not a neewbie. I was just waiting to learn some &quot;know-how&quot; so I can help others (I thing this is the main purpose of any human).<br />
<br />
I had that issue too. Every time I left treo (witch is rare!!:D) for a more long time without working on it, it &quot;freezes&quot;, or enter the &quot;sleep mode&quot;  you mentioned.<br />
<br />
I was worried, as my sister bought it as unlocked from palm and we recieved a cingular half unlocked phone (unbranded but still have the sim lock, witch I removed from contacting ATT ang getting the 8 digit MSL..this deserves a hole post...tell me if you want to know...) and than gaved me as a gift here in Brasil.<br />
<br />
If you're new or intermediate on custom rom making, let me advice you that almost any change you make using bootloader is reversible (since you, first of all, download a copy of the original rom, since it seems palm does not allow it to be hosted anymore anywhere and don't flash a GSM rom to a CDMA phone or a CDMA rom to a GSM phone).<br />
<br />
i've been searching all over the net for some explanation on why OS freezes (randomly or overnight) or reboot randomly or in a loop without sucess on finding a definitive answer... most of them point to a problem related to some units that had a hardware problem... Let me calm down all of you...<br />
<br />
I've found that using the windows room tool only (I mean the one that you uses for downloading and uploading the rom, as for changing tokens) does not generate a new boot file with the moddings. This makes the OS unstable leading to fatal exeption of unknown application (because it lacks the file on ROM, that should be fixed by the palm crew, it didn't even know it is because of it), so make sure you followed all instructions (if you're using the windows rom tool and treo 650 tool or the new java process) as is.<br />
<br />
i've also expirienced that some prc's just don't go on ROM, making it reboot loop. Make a search for compatibility or simply try one by one (simply but more time consuming).<br />
<br />
You may also make a &quot;base&quot; custom rom, without the language files already, without any unwanted application and with or without the SDHC driver and the FAT32 driver (yes, they are two different things, one takes care of hardware driver and the other on &quot;format&quot; type driver), make sure it's stable (run it alone for 2 or 3 days), and than start putting app to it.<br />
<br />
I've noticed that if you only remove the FATFS.prc file and add the FAT32.prc, it somehow, stays looking for the FATFS.prc first, than it searches for other driver (FAT32.prc), so I've renamed the FAT32.prc to FATFS.prc and it looks like its faster (maybe just impression, shadowmite, please clear this for us).<br />
<br />
I've noticed that with the MMCBulverdeIntelDrv_Device.prc and the SlotDriver_ SDIO-sdsd.prc. Renaming the second as if it was the first one make some difference on loading time.<br />
<br />
I was using the 650 rom MMSDCard.prc and MMSDCard_enUS.prc files and they were working well. Tonight I've changed them to the 680 version to see how it works. Until now no diference noticed (I didn't uploaded the MMSDCard_frFR.prc because I guess its only a language file, again, shadowmite help us! and the files for drivers I've putted them in the old format too FATFS.prc and MMCBulverdeIntelDrv_Device.prc). PS: it was very hard to find a all in one package with all these files plus FAT32.prc and SlotDriver_ SDIO-sdsd.prc, but if you google it, there still chance of find (sd-680.zip).<br />
<br />
The SDHC complete driver is found on shadowmite, But don't follow the instructions because the smartext engine is a knwon problem. Use the one provided with the package.<br />
<br />
The tool in this page is the one used for downloading and uploading the rom (from grack.com), the one for boot editing is another one (I've noticed the version and program this time, it's, again, another creation of the master...Treo 650 ROM Customizer v0.8 BETA Shadowmite date of 7/22//05, it worked for 1.20 version customizing very well). Let me know if I can upload it here or please someone else post a link to an already internet hosted copy.<br />
<br />
I've been using windows 7 ultimate 64-bit OS and bluetooth for hotsync with acess desktop ultimate version with no problem (except it won't install any package that palm released...later keep reading...).<br />
<br />
I've been trying out the XP mode on it, and on that &quot;Machine-OS&quot; I've installed the 4.14 palm one palm Desktop and use the usb hotsync bundled over the USB virtualization with no problems for hotsync, palm updates and rom modding.<br />
<br />
My advice for every one in this scenario is to follow all the instructions on setting XP mode on windows 7 (I think it's avaliable only on ultimate and enterprise versions) and the rom modding complete scene guide too (search a lot, read a lot, backup a lot period).<br />
<br />
I haven't tested it on other virtual pc/virtualization software so I don't know.<br />
<br />
Running now: <br />
Cingular Treo 650<br />
unlocked by code provided by ATT and edited token to be definitive (the only way I found to definitive unlock without a cingular SIM)<br />
Radio version: 1.51 (the last version for Cingular treos, and I guess this is important, again, master...give us a final word...)<br />
Software Version: Treo650-1.20-ENA (Custom rom made from 1.20_NA for USA made treos, for the brasilian version, the correct last version is 1.20_LAP (yes, we do have a palm factory here,on manaus, amazonia))<br />
Hardware version: B (none information about this when searching on...maybe there are different results over firmware updates).<br />
<br />
Contents of ROM:<br />
<br />
Original essencial rom files (don't forget to not dell MMS files, these are for the Multimedia Mensage System (that service for sending pictures and music along with SMS for another cell number trough paid operator system) and they are very often removed along with the versamail program files MM. Other ones are: MMSDCard.bprc and MMSDCard_enUS.oprc (if you are goeing to change for the treo 680 files, its ok, if you're goeing to put only FAT32 driver, don't delete theese or you won't read SD cards)...<br />
<br />
+PLUS+<br />
<br />
AudioGateway-SwSs.prc (only the prc left after install  and reg of latest release) [bluetooth stereo audio]<br />
Camcorder_Loader.bprc (why does't palm included it originaly?) [direct link to film mode like the original photo mode]<br />
<br />
Camcorder_Loader_enUS.oprc (again)<br />
<br />
ShortCut5.prc (freeware for creating text shortcuts)<br />
ML_app_hires.prc (launcher app Mega launcher version 6.5, and again, only the master prc file AFTER install and reg)<br />
<br />
GrfAnywhere.prc (Version 1.59 patched)<br />
<br />
KeyGuardEx.prc (light, rock solid and best of all free latest version 1.170<br />
<br />
pnoJpegLib.PRC (for custom image on keyguard)<br />
<br />
TouchBG.prc (for slide unlock, iguess)<br />
<br />
CardExport2.prc (Card_Export_2.25.977 original prc, not reg or install before copying)<br />
<br />
PhoneSwitch.prc (1.2 basic free version)<br />
<br />
soundrec.prc (free 1.1 version)<br />
<br />
TreoAlarm.prc (1.17 version pathced)<br />
<br />
UninstallManager.prc (3.20 version original prc not installed or reg)<br />
<br />
RAM<br />
other apps (realy many)<br />
<br />
Excelent Performance on reading from card using a 2GB standard Kingston SD, formated as FAT (original standart) with standard everything (it was faster than FAT32), but have already sucess tested a MICRO SD on adapter with 4GB (not sure the standard of anything, i'll check it latter, but i think is a SDHC, since only modding the FATFS.prc didn't worked, but with the slot driver it worked realy fine!) from my mother Nokia 3120 Classic cell phone.<br />
<br />
I'm planning on including master shadowmite SignalMeter.prc on it, also the ringo 4.452 installed and regged master prc.</div>

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