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			<title>Goodbye Palm (...for now?)</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:55:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[After being let down once again by the 1.3.1 update, I decided to take a sip of the Android Kool-Aid and purchase a Hero. I love webOS but I'm tired of waiting for basic stuff to be fixed or implemented. The Pre as a whole is a great concept with tons of potential but Palm just isn't delivering the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>After being let down once again by the 1.3.1 update, I decided to take a sip of the Android Kool-Aid and purchase a Hero. I love webOS but I'm tired of waiting for basic stuff to be fixed or implemented. The Pre as a whole is a great concept with tons of potential but Palm just isn't delivering the goods as far as I'm concerned. <br />
<br />
My dilemma now is trying to figure what to do with my Pre. I have three Touchstones, a car charger, an extra battery, and various other odds and ends that would probably pay for my Hero purchase and then some if I were to throw them on eBay. I've already left the Pre platform once and came back though (I had a launch day Pre that I took back after only a few days)... perhaps I should just put all this stuff in a box somewhere and check back in on the community in a few months when the Pre may be closer to being out of beta status?<br />
<br />
Decisions, decisions... :) <br />
<br />
In any event, I want to thank all the fine folks here at Precentral for the wealth of information on webOS / the Pre that you've shared. Also, a HUGE thanks to the Homebrew crew for doing your best to add functionality to our phones and fill in the cracks that Palm has been unable or unwilling to. You guys rock!<br />
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Take care everyone! <br />
<br />
- Tate</div>

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			<dc:creator>the_tate</dc:creator>
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			<title>Thank you to all</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:14:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I know this isn't directly related to apps per se, but this was the thread that I read the most (as well as lacking an all purpose/generic Palm thread in which to place this), so I thought it the most fitting place to post.  
 
With this being my last night using a Palm device (700p with a Droid...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I know this isn't directly related to apps per se, but this was the thread that I read the most (as well as lacking an all purpose/generic Palm thread in which to place this), so I thought it the most fitting place to post. <br />
<br />
With this being my last night using a Palm device (700p with a Droid showing up tomorrow), I just wanted to thank everyone (left?) here for all of the advice given, whether or not I was the intended recipient. It was boards like these that really made my Palm experience more enjoyable than I could have expected for the OS, and upon some reflection felt compelled to express my gratitude to those that are remaining. Thank you all very much, and I wish you all the best with your handhelds and smartphones going forward. <br />
<br />
Ryan</div>

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			<dc:creator>RBallard</dc:creator>
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			<title>I want to get the Touch Pro 2</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:34:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I love my Pre. 
 
 
I just get bored and like new things.  So I am thinking about getting the Touch Pro 2 and checking it out. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I love my Pre.<br />
<br />
<br />
I just get bored and like new things.  So I am thinking about getting the Touch Pro 2 and checking it out.<br />
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			<dc:creator>MaxLOL</dc:creator>
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			<title>Droid and Pre</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 19:36:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Ok everyone, I have to say, I went to go see the Droid and used it for a while.  First thing, I HAVE TO RANT ABOUT IS...  
 
Form factor.  This thing is just so uncomfortable in the hand.  There is nothing like the feel of the Pre.  The pre is small, very smooth and does not feel so rough in the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Ok everyone, I have to say, I went to go see the Droid and used it for a while.  First thing, I HAVE TO RANT ABOUT IS... <br />
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Form factor.  This thing is just so uncomfortable in the hand.  There is nothing like the feel of the Pre.  The pre is small, very smooth and does not feel so rough in the hands.  <br />
<br />
I was trying to play with the droid at the store and it's just not that appealing.  If I understand this right, it suppose to be for consumers not business?  To me, as a consumer I can't stand the way it looks.  I was trying to use one hand to move around the droid menu and wow... I am so glad I have the Pre.  The Pre is extremely smooth compared to the droid.  The droid &quot;jitters&quot; when scrolling.  Which I was suprised.  It does look like a big brick though, feel like it could be a lethal weapon :P<br />
<br />
Anyway, It is so huge that I cannot use it in one hand, and that's what I love about the pre.<br />
<br />
Ok but I have to say, the Droid Docking station, that is really awesome.  Does anyone know if something like that is coming out for the Pre?  I am not a touchstone fanatic, but the docking station for me would be excellent accessory.  I actually get home sometimes and connect it to my surround sound system so I can hear some music through it.  I hate having to have to connect the power cable then the audio cable.  I would love to just have a cradle I could dock and it works.  Any Word? :D<br />
<br />
Thanks... My rant mode is now off</div>

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			<dc:creator>dint56</dc:creator>
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			<title>Is Sprint coming out with any more new phones before the holidays?</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:17:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I am currently disappointed with Sprint's lineup compared to ones on other carriers. For those on Sprint will new phones be coming before Christmas? I sure hope so because in my opinion the Motorola Droid is looking pretty nice. You can't beat Sprint's prices but I just wish that they had a better...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am currently disappointed with Sprint's lineup compared to ones on other carriers. For those on Sprint will new phones be coming before Christmas? I sure hope so because in my opinion the Motorola Droid is looking pretty nice. You can't beat Sprint's prices but I just wish that they had a better selection on phones. If you have any information on new phones to come in the near future, your responses would be much appreciated. ;)</div>

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			<title>comcast 2 go</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 03:31:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>im beginning to believe comcast is going to have higher subscriptions then sprint will in the 4g sales. 
 
High-Speed 2go™ Nationwide (4G/3G): For the fastest speeds outside the 4G coverage area! This service is ideal for your business if you to intend to travel between 4G and 3G coverage areas,...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>im beginning to believe comcast is going to have higher subscriptions then sprint will in the 4g sales.<br />
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High-Speed 2go™ Nationwide (4G/3G): For the fastest speeds outside the 4G coverage area! This service is ideal for your business if you to intend to travel between 4G and 3G coverage areas, providing continued service outside the optimal 4G network.<br />
<br />
    * 4G/3G dual mode services provide the same blazing-fast Internet speeds within the 4G network, and 3G speeds outside the network<br />
    * Nationwide wireless coverage with 3G service<br />
<br />
Pricing With Agreement For Business Class Internet 	1-Year Agreement 	2-Year Agreement<br />
Service 	4G and 3G 	4G and 3G<br />
Monthly Price 	$50 	$50<br />
Cost of 4G/3G Data Card 	$229 	FREE<br />
Activation Fee 	$49 	FREE<br />
Standard Pricing Without Internet Agreement<br />
Monthly Price 	$80 	 <br />
Cost of Data Card 	$229 	 <br />
Activation Fee 	$49 	 <br />
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Monthly Usage Cap 	N/A 	 <br />
Max Connection Speed 	3.0 - 6.0 Mbps / 1 Mbps 	 <br />
Wireless Commitment 	N/A 	 <br />
12-Month Warranty 	INCLUDED 	 <br />
30-Day Money Back Guarantee 	INCLUDED 	 <br />
Additional Charges<br />
3G On-Network Overage Charges<br />
(5GB Per Month Cap) 	$.10 / MB 	 <br />
3G Off-Network Roaming Charges<br />
(100MB Per Month Domestic Roaming Included) 	$1.00 / MB 	 <br />
International Roaming 	  	 <br />
Canada 	$20 / 10MB 	 <br />
Other Destinations 	$20 / 5MB 	 <br />
Device Insurance 	$4.99 / month</div>

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			<dc:creator>jonathanlc2005</dc:creator>
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			<title>Stock Ringtones on Samsung Phones</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:23:22 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[This may not be the right place, but I have no idea where to even start, forgive me! 
 
Specifically, I'm looking for the stock ringtones that came with the Samsung F300. Does anyone know of site where I'd be able to find these?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>This may not be the right place, but I have no idea where to even start, forgive me!<br />
<br />
Specifically, I'm looking for the stock ringtones that came with the Samsung F300. Does anyone know of site where I'd be able to find these?</div>

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			<dc:creator>Menso</dc:creator>
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			<title>this is best phone commericial ive seen since...</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:07:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>the sprint crime deterrant... 
 
so verizon landed an ad that smacks the hell out of att right were it belongs. the island of misfit toys... and shows the 3g map. talk about burn!!:mad: 
 
on youtube</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>the sprint crime deterrant...<br />
<br />
so verizon landed an ad that smacks the hell out of att right were it belongs. the island of misfit toys... and shows the 3g map. talk about burn!!:mad:<br />
<br />
on youtube</div>

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			<title>Lawsuit Claims Top iPhone Games Stole User Data</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:24:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Backdoor in top iPhone games stole user data, suit claims â€¢ The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/06/iphone_games_storm8_lawsuit/) 
Slashdot Games Story | Lawsuit Claims Top iPhone Games Stole User Data...</description>
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<a href="http://games.slashdot.org/story/09/11/08/1352249/Lawsuit-Claims-Top-iPhone-Games-Stole-User-Data" target="_blank">Slashdot Games Story | Lawsuit Claims Top iPhone Games Stole User Data</a><br />
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				It's not the first time Storm8 has been accused of spying on its users. In August, SFGate.com writer Yobi Benjamin analyzed precisely what information his iPhone was sending to Storm8 and dropped it into <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin/detail?blogid=150&amp;entry_id=46236" target="_blank">this column</a>.
			
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</div>This seems a bit disconcerting to both Apple's &quot;walled garden&quot; approach to the app store and to the dangers of our modern smartphones. We have a lot of personal data on these systems, all condensed down, interlinked, and always connected to the Internet for our convenience. Even something as unrelated as a game can now broadcast our personal information to the highest bidder.<br />
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It's been said that security is a process, not a product. Hopefully Palm is aware of this.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Brain_ReCall</dc:creator>
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			<title>Let the droid complaints begin!</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:37:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[You wouldn't think the droid is immune to complaints would you? 
 
Some complaints I'm already reading about "the droid" 
 
poor battery life 
key board is of concern 
no multi-touch 
camera is slow/laggy 
 
depending on who you believe I've even read that:]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>You wouldn't think the droid is immune to complaints would you?<br />
<br />
Some complaints I'm already reading about &quot;the droid&quot;<br />
<br />
poor battery life<br />
key board is of concern<br />
no multi-touch<br />
camera is slow/laggy<br />
<br />
depending on who you believe I've even read that:<br />
<br />
customer turnout on opening day was low.<br />
appeals to a narrow market (geeks)<br />
too large form factor.<br />
<br />
Just keeping things &quot;fair and balanced&quot;</div>

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			<dc:creator>stockh</dc:creator>
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			<title>Droid World.  The Power House is Here</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:25:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I went to the local bestbuy today to get the newest version of the Sprint HTC Hero and I stood in line for over an hour.  In that hour I saw over 10 Droids being sold.  The Verizon rep was there helping the Best Buy Mobile reps in getting everything up and running.   They had 40 units and sold a...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I went to the local bestbuy today to get the newest version of the Sprint HTC Hero and I stood in line for over an hour.  In that hour I saw over 10 Droids being sold.  The Verizon rep was there helping the Best Buy Mobile reps in getting everything up and running.   They had 40 units and sold a quarter of them in one hour.  This does not even include what verizon is doing.  They opened at 6am. <br />
<br />
Android is taking over and the buzz is out there.  I saw moms and dads 40-50 year old people to teenagers buying the phone, some purchasing 2-3 units at once.  I would guess most of them are clueless of the power of android.  Android is getting more and more powerful each day.  <br />
<br />
The 12000 apps available will surely grow rapidly with all these new customers jumping over to android.    <br />
<br />
Where does this put palm in this game?  I think multi task is great but is this going to be enough?  The pre is going to verizon and with all the droid buzz I don't see the pre being a heavy hitter.  The snapdragon coming to AT&amp;T with a 1ghz processor running android and verizon to get another android phone by the end of the year.  That makes 3 for verizon, 2 for sprint, and at&amp;t to get atleast 2.  <br />
<br />
Oh just to add. I had and issue with my earpiece on my hero and got the newest stock hero with the google branding.  This phone is even better than the first one and I thought the first one was terrific.  HTC saw the problem and fixed all the issues within 20 days of release.  Why hasn't palm done this when they clearly see all the issues with their build quality???</div>

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			<dc:creator>THETRUTH</dc:creator>
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			<title>Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:24:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>*Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You* 
 
Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You - Business Center - PC World (http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/181590/verizon_droid_tethering_will_cost_you.html)</description>
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<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/181590/verizon_droid_tethering_will_cost_you.html" target="_blank">Verizon Droid Tethering Will Cost You - Business Center - PC World</a></div>

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			<title>Why the iphone has so many apps</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:59:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>This is Why There are 100,000 Apps in the App Store | The Apps Machine-iPhone and App News, Tricks, and Guide (http://www.theappsmachine.com/iphone-news-and-rumors/this-is-why-there-are-100000-apps-in-the-app-store/)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.theappsmachine.com/iphone-news-and-rumors/this-is-why-there-are-100000-apps-in-the-app-store/" target="_blank">This is Why There are 100,000 Apps in the App Store | The Apps Machine-iPhone and App News, Tricks, and Guide</a></div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Brit Blog names iPhone Worlds "Worst Phone"]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:47:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>FWIW..... 
 
brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108096/brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html?mod=family-love_money)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>FWIW.....<br />
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<a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/108096/brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html?mod=family-love_money" target="_blank">brit-Blog-names-iPhone-worlds-worst.html: Personal Finance News from Yahoo! Finance</a></div>

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			<title>Considering the Moment...</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:57:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[So Pre #3 broke this weekend, same thing that happened to my last Pre, external speaker is blown. I can't keep switching phones every month or 2, it's really getting frustrating. I don't play music through the speaker, the only thing I use the damned thing for is to check my voice mail, as an alarm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So Pre #3 broke this weekend, same thing that happened to my last Pre, external speaker is blown. I can't keep switching phones every month or 2, it's really getting frustrating. I don't play music through the speaker, the only thing I use the damned thing for is to check my voice mail, as an alarm clock, and if anyone calls, it rings. I think anyone who knows my posts here knows I love the phone, but enough is enough. I'm considering talking to retentions, to see if they can throw me a bone, otherwise, I'll replace the Pre AGAIN, sell it, and buy the Moment(assuming it's decent, I'm going to try it at lunch). Has anyone had any luck with retentions in situations like this? Thoughts on the Moment? It's got everything I want in an Android phone, including a faster processor.<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance.</div>

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