t2gungho

Maybe I am missing a thread somewhere but where is someone claiming that WM5 is not stable

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The Phone Diva

Active Sync seems to be unstable and/or unpredictable on WM5, for some. But WM5 itself is OK, just cumbersome to navigate.

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gtwo

a SWAG, off the top of my head.

Announce Feb 22, release for sale March 22. I will be heart broken if that is not the case.

Anyway, I plan our company's inventory. I am always peering into the darkness and the great unknown and trying to make sense of it so I can buy inventory on a 90 to 120 lead time. At the moment I am trying to figure out what we need for May. The little voice in the back of my head gave me those dates, I'm just hoping that my little voice was not kidnapped and replaced by Doom's demented squirrel!

Cheers, Perry.

vikingjunior

He's hearing voices, I think it's back to the hospital you go......

gtwo

I trust my little voice. . . . .

NJ Dog Doc

I believe in the 700P, but I'm kinda scared of Perry's little voice.

vikingjunior

Hmmm "Treo 700P EVDO REV. A" Hardware..... I hear voices too....................

NJ Dog Doc

I do believe there will be a 700p and I think the specs that everyone has been debating (eg Perry's list above) are more or less on target. I have not been persuaded one way or the other on garnet vs. cobalt, and am content to wait and see.

What I want to know is WHEN IS THE DANG THING COMING OUT?!?

I originally agreed with those that speculated on March or April. At this point I'm thinking Lady Treo might be right- Sept. I'm not sure I'm willing to wait that long. My 600 is long in the tooth. I may need to take my hard earned dollars elsewhere. And if I do that, I doubt I'll come running back the minute Palm does get around to releasing something.

gtwo

Hi NJ Dog Doc!

Well, we will all know soon enough. I am basing my belief on three things:

A Verizon WM5 release followed by a Sprint Palm release: allowing Verizon and Microsoft to have their 'splash' for a couple of months makes sense. I believe the products were developed in tandem. The only thing that could hold up the 700P is if they could not get EV-DO to work on the P.

Shadowmite has seen one. (with EV-DO)

The investment report that detailed the 2006 rollouts.
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=8224
(Placing the 700P in the first Q of 2006.)

Cheers, Perry.


Call it pure hope or intuition -- I listen to my little voice, most of the time it serves me very well. And don't try to confuse me with any facts I do not want to consider -- My mind is made up!

skigs

If we don't see something soon, Palm may have to sweeten the pot to keep us POS folks out of the hands of the Dark Lord. In my mind and fantasy...skip the 700P and get Hollywood out there and then give us longtime Palm Treo users a trade in rebate just like they did with the 600. That I can see wating for.

Skigs

td67mustang

I am also waiting on the P. the thing that kills me is that i am on verizon so i know i will wait even longer. Once the P comes out verizon will have to wait while sprint or whoever has the "exclusive" on the p. Grrr. i think perry's specs seem accurate enough. Probably similar to the 700w with a dif OS.

t2gungho

Are we limiting this just to WM5 on the treo? (Because I haven't seen the same issues on the 6700 and I thought there was some tweaks made for the 700 and it's one-handedness.)

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davisdog

The Voices I heard said Feb/Mar for the 700P/Sprint (before the end of Q1) and ~May for a Cingular Version with HSDPA (ie Q2) but only time will tell (these voices are usually accurate but things have been known to change of course)

JackNaylorPE

I sat next to a Palm executive this past week and, after filling him with a few martinis, this is what I found out. He was still tight lipped but I was able to observe some of the features since he was playing with it after I pretended to be asleep. The only thing he would confirm was the release date which is 2 months, 1 week and 1 day from today (01-24-06):

Most Interresting fact - Palm is not exactly happy with the 700w release (expected bigger splash) and wants to differentiate the new Palm OS version from the 700.....they haven't selected a model designation yat but are leaning towards something that will show what a "monster" it is. When I suggested 666, he smiled and winked.

The new Treo comes with small hinge pins at the bottom corners which allows little curved legs to open and allow the Treo to stand upright on a table. To watch some video sales presentations, he stood the Treo upright at the front edge of the folding airline tray and the Treo projected the image on the back of the seat where he had hung a large napkin. Resolution of the built in LCD projector is 1920 x 1280. The new Treo is apparently HDTV ready.

After viewing the video's he typed up some comments and typed up an e-mail by pushing the still standing Treo to the back of the tray and having it project an infrared keyboard on the tray. When we landed for a short layover, since he didn't leave the plane, I also stayed on to to observe.

To send the e-mails, he tried the unit's WiFi but apparently the airport signal didn't extend outside the plane. He then did something that I didn't quite understand at first. He opened up the battery cover and took the battery out. Then he took a smaller module out and out, placed another one in and made some calls. After each call, he opened up a spreadsheet and recorded location, signal strength, voice quality and other parameters and CARRIER. He then switched modules and did it again. I got a peek at the modules this time and the first one said Sprint....saw one that said Verizon, one Cingular and 2 others that I didn't get a peek at. Apparently all Treo 666's will be the same with the radio / phone / ROM module switchable. I got my best look at the Cingular one and it had two slots for SIM cards, one of which was filled, the other empty.

He went potty just about then and packed up his goodies in one of those European carryalls (man purse). In it I was astounded to recognize the following among other things that I have no idea about....one of which I found out about later.

First thing was a 9" LCD screen which can apparently be used in a vehicle with the itty bitty slide in Garmin GPS unit. A switch on the GPS allows BT or wired configuration. There was also a small ipod dock like thing with two Bose flat panel speakers, a cordess stereo headset w/ mike boom and several SD cards. One thing I was astounded to notice was that 1 SD card said WM5, another PalmOS and another Symbian.

My guess is like Toshiba did some years ago in the early days of Windows 95. Windows 95 was the latest and greatest suppossedly but those who bothered to test and benchmark it soon found that it was 40% slower than Windows 4 Workgroups. So Toshiba shiped their laptops with a boot loader program that upon first starting the machine, it asks what OS you want and then at some point after installing the basic OS it would ask for you to insert a CD to load the appropriate drivers, programs , utilities etc.

We were sitting in a hot cabin as the AC wasn't working on ground and suddenly this guy a few rows up started having symptoms of a heart attack. Mr. Palm guy leaps up, opens his man purse and pulls out some wires and patches and sticking them on this guy's chest. After the stewardess called emergency services, and got an ftp address, he hooked up with the local hospital's computer and uploaded an electro cardiogram. A few minutes later, the guy on the floor stoped breathing and the steady beep beep beep that was coming outta the Palm stopped.

Palm guy opens his man purse again and pulls out another set of cables and yells "stand back"......After 3 shots from the built in defribulator, the guy started breathing again. The emergency medical team arrived along with some police and another guy who I hadn't noticed before stands up and starts screaming in a foreign tongue, The police can't get to him as the heart attack guy is lying on the floor between so Palm guy stands up, holds the space bar down for 3 seconds and two prongs pop up like twin antenaes (did I say it had no phone antenae ?). Palm guy presses the Palm's "antennae" to fanatic guy's neck and the built in taser renders the guy harmless.

Back in our seats and getting ready for takeoff the palm guy fires up Trillian Pro for Palm OS and starts IM'ing all his exec buddies about all the features he got to test. After that he puts on the projector again and starts playing Duke Nukem Forever. The lady in front of him complained about the noise and he switched to MS Flight Simulator fo the Palm OS.

We were scheduled to land about then but here was heavy cloud cover and the landing schedule was backed up. The pilot came on and said we were diverting to another airport because the storm had knocked out the airport's navigational beacons. Palm dude spoke to the stewardess and shortly therefater was called up to the cockpit. Palm dude asked me to hold his man purse and come with him. The pilot explained that he didn't think he had enough fuel left to reach the other airport. Palm guy used the GPS and MS Flight Simulator to calculate a landing pattern, beamed it to the plane's instrument panel and we landed safely.

Palm guy asked me were I was going and offered to give me a ride to the hotel as he was staying there also. I began to regret saying yes as there was a problem with one piece of his luggage missing. I accompanied him to the baggage counter where they said, that the luggage came of the plane and was somewhere in the baggage handling system. He fired up his palm and scanned for RFID frequencies. The palm located his luggage and we followed a baggage clerk into a room with all the conveyors and found his luggage had fallen off a belt and got kicked under a luggage trailer.

I thought I had seen it all but he had one more trick up his sleeve. The cabbie's meter said we had traveled 21.6 mile sand the fare was $45. Palm guy, who I now knew as "Bill" said that the cab had only traveled 17.4 miles according to his GPS and he threatened to report the guy to the transportation commission....they cabbie said something in a language I didn't understand, told us to get out of his cab and pay him whatever we wanted. Palm guy said fine and gave him nothing.

We had a few drinks at the hotel bar and the waitress was admiring his phone. So he opens his luggage and gave the cutie a brand new Palm 700w in the box. He smiled and said, we gotta get rid of these things fast with the "monster" hitting the shelves. After reciving the check, he used the palm's camera to take a picture of the bill. The Palm then OCR's the bill and entered the data into his pocket quicken expense program. We sat there talking for a bit and he took out another box containing a 700w and laid it on the table. Occasionally a person would come buy and ask about it and he joyfully sold the 700, popping a new one out of his bag each time. To accept payment, he'd swipe the person's credit card through a slot along the side of his Palm that I hadn't noticed before, and used the hotel's wifi to process the payments. At this time I saw yet another feature.....the whole back of the case has like a thin false cover which fits like a skin over the regular case. You fold this down and pop in a piece of coated infrared light sensitive paper and the Palm use the LCD projector to print a receipt.

He aked what I thought would be a good launch idea to promote sales of the "monster". I suggested they use the old song "Monster in my Pants" and have people walking around Treo's in their pants pocket. When the phone rings, using an mp3 tune, the Treo starts "dancing" to the "Monster in pants" song, wiggling around in the pants pocket....the treo owner takes out, places upright on table and the little lags fan out and it dances while the person uses the phone and maybe another feature or two. He liked the idea so he asked what about some promotional campaigns to get word of mouth going.

That was easy I said....no better place than TreoCentral. So everyone go to your calender program and look at today's data......add a day, add a week, add two months. From 12:00:01 thru 12:05.00....on that day place a post in the "I want a monster in my pants" thread and if you post is logged between 12:00:01 thru 12:05.00 you will win a Treo Monster on the carrier of your choice.

driven01

WM5 seems very stable.

It's just a royal pain in the **** to use. Very unintuitive that makes otherwise fast hardware feel slow.

Alas, I must begin my decent into the pits of hell.

hotbranch

Treo 666...

GREAT post!

gtwo

APRIL FOOLS

slinky

ROFLMAO. Perhaps one of the funniest posts I've read here. Honestly, I had NO clue that in a flash there would be 34 responses and over 1,000 page views. At least this thread is entertaining!!!

dutchtrumpet

TREO 666

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slinky

ROFLMAO... I spoke too soon. This thread continues to get better and better. We have now entered a whole new level of information gathering! Bravissimo JackNaylor!!!! Thank you for the details!

Talk about really scary, Palm actually has a booth at NY's Legaltech where a portion of technology vendors will push their wares. The best use for a Palm in a law firm would be if it could double as a defibrillator...