I have a Treo 700p in my hands!!!!! - Page 51

gtwo · 02/06/2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gharrod

Shadow, thank you for clearing up your role in this. I missedyour post where you staed thinking something was fishy about this but I saw at least a few where you lent support to what Merlyn was saying. Merlyn, I doubt has much more then a copy of photoshop and a lot of spare time. How easy would it be to rename a file "lowrider" in order to get Shadowmites attention? It is my opinion Merlyn owes someone the truth. Whatever, your NDA thinking doesn't work because he supposedly "bought" the phone. Can't have an NDA on something that has to have FCC approval to be sold and was purchased. Ohhhh, maybe a sad day for Merlyn when Sprint comes after him with the FCC when he tries to use the phone. I have suspected this to be another hoax from the beginning.

Perry, I really feel badly for you guy because it is obvious how badly you want an improved Treo but what has this guy given you or anyone else but serious heartburn over the last 24 hours.

Maybe Meryln will have his Treo 700p on Oprah's Book Club tomorrrow afternoon or maybe be on Larry King and Oprah can call to defend him...

Hi gharrod!

I'm just trying to make sense of this. What, if anything, can we gather from what happened and the files that Shadowmite saw? Is my post #1006 a correct assesment or not?

http://discussion.treocentral.com/sh...postcount=1006

donjuan831 · 02/06/2006, 12:52 AM

I live in Santa Cruz, CA. Not far from San Jose. I would like to check out the phone if Merlyn still has it.

SidePocket · 02/06/2006, 12:54 AM

My guess is 1) Merlyn_3D has a lot more in his hands than just a Treo 700p at the moment to deal with and 2) we may not be hearing from Merlyn_3D for a long, long time!

Jazzi · 02/06/2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SidePocket

My guess is 1) Merlyn_3D has a lot more in his hands than just a Treo 700p at the moment to deal with and 2) we may not be hearing from Merlyn_3D for a long, long time!

My thoughts, exactly!

No doubt Shadow reported on what he saw. Has he ever mislead the TC? Not that I'm aware of.

Also, little doubt that Merlyn said more than he probably should have. However, his story on the source doesn't ring true, and his source is probably sorry he let Merlyn get his hands on it.

rjmoose · 02/06/2006, 01:00 AM

So, what's the bottom line here? Perry, Shadowmite, anyone (Slinky)?

gharrod · 02/06/2006, 01:03 AM

No idea Perry. All I can tell you is I grew up in Iowa and if you saw manure on the ground and saw a the field was filled with cows it was pretty evident it was cow manure. This is starting to look like another false alarm. Amazingly the link between Merlyn and Slinky is starting to make me wonder if this is not some concerted effort. Ifind it interesting that Slinky claimed that his "farce" caused Palm to leak the now infamous Merlyn picture. Merlyn claims he bought the phone off craigslist but is now apparently scared to talk about it. Shadow says only that the device Merlyn claims to have may share some files with a device referred to as Low-Rider and not that he in fact has a Low-Rider. I was under the impression from others here that Shadow himself had a 700p for review recently but that appears to have been a mistatement by others also. The timing on this just stinks. Wait, we are back to the cow manure point again aren't we.

I still stick to the information IT Week published saing the current POS can not be used with some of the new features the carriers are wanting so not to expect a new POS based phone till 2007. Why would I want to take the word of someone who claims to have bought a Treo 700p before it was released over the reported story in a publication like IT Week?

So my friend we are in the same boat. We seek the truth and to make sense of this all.

pump142 · 02/06/2006, 01:04 AM

something cool is in the works and we will have to wait for it

JackNaylorPE · 02/06/2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by gharrod

Merlyn, I doubt has much more then a copy of photoshop and a lot of spare time. How easy would it be to rename a file "lowrider" in order to get Shadowmites attention? It is my opinion Merlyn owes someone the truth. Whatever, your NDA thinking doesn't work because he supposedly "bought" the phone. Can't have an NDA on something that has to have FCC approval to be sold and was purchased.

If it had FCC approval, wouldn't that info be public ? It was not legitimately sold through an authorized retail outlet. Kinda like saying if I got my hands on a stereo system that "fell off a truck", you couldn't be hassled for reselling it cause I sold it to you. It's called receipt of stolen property.

Joe Blow signs an NDA as a employee of some company in which he agrees, under threat of civil and criminal penalties, not to disclose any information nor give up the device. He then loses it or sells it to you.

The cops and / or lawyers then arrive at your doorstep demanding to know how and from whom you got the phone. They state that you were well aware that this was a preproduction model subject to NDA's , you even took the step of defacing (in the photos) the serial numbers which would identify the unit and the culprit. So I see several reasons why an individual might regret "going public" with such a device.

BigTex · 02/06/2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gharrod

No idea Perry. All I can tell you is I grew up in Iowa and if you saw manure on the ground and saw a the field was filled with cows it was pretty evident it was cow manure. This is starting to look like another false alarm. Amazingly the link between Merlyn and Slinky is starting to make me wonder if this is not some concerted effort. Ifind it interesting that Slinky claimed that his "farce" caused Palm to leak the now infamous Merlyn picture. Merlyn claims he bought the phone off craigslist but is now apparently scared to talk about it. Shadow says only that the device Merlyn claims to have may share some files with a device referred to as Low-Rider and not that he in fact has a Low-Rider. I was under the impression from others here that Shadow himself had a 700p for review recently but that appears to have been a mistatement by others also. The timing on this just stinks. Wait, we are back to the cow manure point again aren't we.

I still stick to the information IT Week published saing the current POS can not be used with some of the new features the carriers are wanting so not to expect a new POS based phone till 2007. Why would I want to take the word of someone who claims to have bought a Treo 700p before it was released over the reported story in a publication like IT Week?

So my friend we are in the same boat. We seek the truth and to make sense of this all.

gharrod you are SUCH a doubting Thomas. I have always questioned your true motivations.

This is my take on this.
1.) Shadow saw a pre production version of 700p or Lowrider"
2.) Merlyn_3D has another pre-production version of the 700p OR Lowrider which pics were posted of
3.) Shadowmite has confrimed the authenticity of Merlyn_3D's device through various methods
4.) There are some "****ed" PALM, INc. folks out there that want to know how Merlyn_3D got this unit. (That is another question re: where this device came from)

The silly season is upon us and we will be seeing more info soon.

shadowmite · 02/06/2006, 01:18 AM

There is no doubt in my mind, the phone is real. He truely has/had one in his possesion. And I learned everything about it I could.

berdinkerdickle · 02/06/2006, 01:25 AM

Hey Everybody,
Look what I have!
But Wait,
I don't want to Talk about it anymore.

IsLNdbOi · 02/06/2006, 01:25 AM

Maybe Palm threatened Merlyn with some legal action? If he didn't get this thread deleted?

mjrkjm · 02/06/2006, 01:30 AM

they cant hold merlyn to what was said on this thread
he has a right to free speech as long as he didnt sign an NDA
and if they were to go after anyone, it would be treo central and i doubt they would do that as it seems to be such a loyal fanbase

gharrod · 02/06/2006, 01:35 AM

Ok, since Big Tex is the source of all knowledge and he thinks I am here for immoral reasons I will now sit back and read on and laugh at the absurd assertions by those who are here just to play mind games with you. Also, Big Tex when else have you stated your "questioning of my motives"?

No one has confirmed anything except now Merlyn is running scared from his earlier story. When Weebitobsessed came across with the Treo pictures he brought us there were literally dozens of them. Here we have bad photoshops and you call my integrity into question?

This is beyond silly. This is stupid and approaching moronic.

So now since Big Tex is the thought police and none other then he can question or comment why not just close the forums?

Now to lean back in my office chair and watch you all make fun of yourselves. Knock yourself out Big Tex. Go for it, you obviously control the world with your 20/20 hindsight. What bravery you exude.

Fender Doc · 02/06/2006, 01:36 AM

Seeing Sprint's commercial during the Super Bowl, if the new Treo has the "theft deterrent system" that is being advertised, can we call it "Low Jack" instead?

Lady, Vikingjunior, Perry, Shadow, Merlyn (I hope that Palm's thugs have not whacked you yet); thank you for a wonderful weekend on TreoCentral.

Slinky - just go away for good. Stay away from TreoCentral. There are good people here, you are not one of them.

We will all have the truth soon.

BigTex · 02/06/2006, 01:43 AM

gharrod,

Methinks the lady doth protest too much!

Did I hit a nerve? I never said anthing other than what I thought. Gotta love the whole free speech thing don't-cha?

Having read most of your posts you come across and a non-believeing, pesimistic Troll. You remind me of SeldomVisitor. I really don't know why you are here as you never have anything good to say about TREO's, PALM etc. I have not before publicly stated my thought about your true agenda but as I stated I have always questioned your true motivations. I am publicly stating my opinion of you now. Yeah! I called you a troll. Deal with it!

Shadow HAS confrimed the authenicity of the device, and his word is good enough for me. You might try reading the last post on the bottom of page 51 where he states that he has no doubt.

Don't try to roll with me boy or I will box your ears and send you to bed with out a supper.

R1_Rydah · 02/06/2006, 01:58 AM

I can't blame Merlyn.. If I got my hands on one... You guys would have a full review the next day lol...

I don't know why Palm is being so secretive... If they would just make a statement about a new POS treo, it would calm a lot of people down... Look @ how many customers they lost to the 6700, I was almost one of them, and it was mainly due to thinking the Palm OS was dead...When companies start making deals with the devil(MS) it usually means the end is near.

Merlyn_3D · 02/06/2006, 02:20 AM

By no means do I want to put the credibility of shadowmite in question, he's a great guy, and very helpful. The only other thing I'm going to say for now is that the unit I had is back in Palm's possession. I haven't been threatened with any legal action, nor do I want to be.

SidePocket · 02/06/2006, 02:24 AM

Okay, must of spent 75% of this weekend reading through these two threads. One OP got banned for a week / month. The other may wish that he gets off that lucky!

Which thread gets your vote for best thread of Super Bowl weekend? Slinky or Merlyn?

Off to bed we go...

Wonder what the next Treo version to "surface" on TreoCentral will be...

Jazzi · 02/06/2006, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlyn_3D

By no means do I want to put the credibility of shadowmite in question, he's a great guy, and very helpful. The only other thing I'm going to say for now is that the unit I had is back in Palm's possession. I haven't been threatened with any legal action, nor do I want to be.

I wouldn't worry about it. I don't think any regular visitor to TC would question Shadow's credibility. Now that the unit is back in Palm's possession, I'm glad a few people got an opportunity to get a peek under the hood. In might be helpful to everyone in the future. Thanks for the peek, and to Shadow for fidgeting under the hood. It was an interesting weekend!