hparsons

The bolded part is significant. Compare it to a year. That gives you an idea about how Palm is doing since they changed course.

hparsons

I get a kick out of hype.
How much of a percentage of phone users do you think is made up by smart phone users?
How much of a percentage of smart phone users do you think is made up by iPhone users?
These aren't trick questions, but I bet the answers will surprise you.
I'm not talking about folks that have bought in the last year or so, I'm talking about total users.

donm527

Timely article

How Palm Lost (Like Apple in the 80s) - Palm pre - Gizmodo

felix711

I love my pre. Sure It may have not come with everything I could possibly want on a phone...but hey what phone does. Plus, the geniusus of webos quick install, homebrew, preware, themes and others make up for a lot of this phones short cummings. For me it was the webOS platform...the mere size of the phone itself is what attracted me in the first place...I love to cary my phone in my back pocket. I hate to have to give her up! But that is what it has come down too. Since, I bought my first pre...Ive had to replace it 6 times. Mostly for cosmetic reason, cracks, dings that stop the phone from wrking correctly...U absolutley cannot drop this phone at all. Not to mention if the phone senses moisture, and Im not talking sumerging the phone in water. Ive also had some software issues that techs couldnt figure out. Lets face it, webOS...awesome. Pre itself..a big piece of crap!!! Ive had enough of this cheap *** built phone...oreo affect drives me nutes, that fact that u have to treat it with kid gloves, drives me nutes and having to be at the sprint store every other day drives me nutes. Sprint has had mercey on me and has allowed me to switch to the samsung android. Hopefully, this phones manufature took quality into consideration when they built it. Ill still be a part of this forum and hope to be back to webOS one day when a manufacture can build a phone made to withstand a normal work day!!!

JD78

Ugh. I really hate these kind of threads on forums like this. Why do people think they need to start a thread just to tell everyone they are no longer using X product? These threads are almost as bad as pointless Facebook updates where people let you know they are going to bed or if they had a good bowel movement. I know i'm new to this particular site, but I frequent many other boards and I always see these kinds of threads, and whats worse in this case is that the guy/or girl created only posted once and the one post is to say they are dumping their pre.

unixpsycho

Stop feeding the trolls!

phlegm

Seriously, you've replaced your pre "6 times"? I smell BS.

daviswe

I'm coming from the position that we all have expectations about electronics products these days that we might not have had 5 years ago. I expect basic things to work, like copy/paste, etc. I'm a fan, but my relationship with Palm is eroding quickly as I still have to swipe several hundred times a day to delete emails twice on a phone that is too slow to keep up with how I want to use it.

When I buy a product, I can tolerate problems that are somewhat beyond the control of developers, like incompatibility, limitations with technology, etc, but the basics are not in that category, and I have a harder time accepting that the simplest things are impossible.

Elysian893

Yay, it's my turn to complain. My 3rd Pre's external speaker died this weekend. What killed it? Hellifino. I only use my external speaker for 3 purposes, Voice Mail, Alarm Clock, and Ringer. Both Alarm Clock and Ringer use stock ring tones. Sprint ordered a refurb, but after using the Samsung Moment, I don't want another Pre. I'm going back there after work to plead my case, since Retentions told me it was up to the stores' discretion whether they'd change my phone model or not. If they still refuse, I'm selling my Pre and getting the Moment, it's clearly the superior phone, and I found Android very easy to get used to from the maybe 30 minutes I spent with it. So farewell Pre, it was nice while it lasted, but I refuse to replace my phone once a month.

Memnock

I got the Pre 5 days after it launched and despite how much I wanted to work out I gave up on it. WebOS is great, but the phone is not. I've had 3 Pres fail on me for different reasons (camera failure, earpiece speaker failure, & an ungodly glitch noise all the time). Let's not forget the oreo effects.

Also after getting my 3rd Pre, my Palm profile only recovered 1/4 of my contacts. Ironically just before my 3rd Pre was on it's way out, I moved to house with poor Sprint coverage. I went and got an iPhone 3GS since I get good AT&T coverage at home. My wife still has Sprint, because the Airave Sprint sent (3 weeks after it was ordered) us did work. Also she loves her pink Instinct. I canceled my Sprint line and sold the 4th Pre I received without even activating it.

Again I wish it could have worked out, but I don't regret switching one bit.

wickdchaos

I'm about to be taking a trip down to sprint cause my power button decided to stop working wonder what run around I'm gonna get for this. Sprint should just replace the phone with a new one especially when the phone isn't over 6 months old

Rednexx

I've been on Palm since 9th of March 1998. I know it this good because on my 1st Palm device - IBM WorkPad - I started the memo item to track down battery use on 1st day of the device in my hands. And - as I have not deleted this memo - it has synced through all my Palm devices up to this day, and I have changed 7 of them so far.
My current one is Trēo 650 as I regrettably realized: there is nothing better on the market, that could force me to switch away - playing around with iPhone and Nokia E71 could not par the _business_ usability of my Trēo 650, and Trēo 680 and Centro, which are available in GSM, did not offer sufficient growth to consider those.

Now I actually fear the day when I'm going to receive my Prē coming in from Germany next week:
1. it does not have _real_ desk-top sync, _AND_
2. it does not sync with my Kubuntu PIM, even if I would choose to get any of available third-party desktop-sync SWs.

Which makes me philosophic on following: (a) can the Linux (and by Linux here-by I mean open source, free of charge platforms) actually make it into business world? and (b) will Palm have the depth of pockets to survive this time, esp., when it has taken huge risks on sacrificing lots of those features business users are so used to on previous Palm devices?

To make it short: gimme desk-top sync via USB, BT, WiFi and over Inet to my akonadi PIM files! And do it soon!

(of course - I want to have capability to back it all up somewhere in "cloud", if I desire so, but it _must not_ be mandatory Google stuff - beware, people! Google has already become Microsoft #2... )

darkdan

good. I don't have to start a thread.

got my pre yesterday after half a yeat of coveting. I miss my 800w already.

give me skyfire anyday. I need mobile excel because I love spreadsheets. I miss syncing with outlook. Flash video? Could my slider be more loose?

I do love the keyboard and camera though.


the rf on this thing is horrible. Very poor reception. Sometimes I roam in my bedroom.

UraniumSnake

I have been looking through help guides but may have skipped over the related subject, but I thought we were able to e-mail and SMS within the same conversation window? It may be that I imagined this was going to be a feature while I hyped myself up pre release. I have tried a number of things but can not accomplish this without copy/paste into a new card.

Also, why does my phone not open internet pdf files? It tries to open them but says there is no app for that file... yes there is, PDF view.

Anyone have any ideas?

frankysfree

Let me list the reasons i hate my pre:
-In my house i absolutely cant get reception. I drop calls constantly. I
drop calls every couple minutes of talk.
-I have to reset my phone constantly to get the gps to work.
-When the gps works it doesnt work well. It tells me to exit where there is
not an exit and even tells me to go one way, then tells me i went the wrong
way and redirects me.
-My phone locks up every few days.
-There arent any usefull apps. Too many games.
-The battery wont even last half a day when im on it constantly.
-The keyboard is to small to comfortably txt, which i do alot.
-The internet is spotchy and slow when im not connected to my wifi
-The phone is to slow to do anything quickly on it.

This is my first experience with sprint and the palm pre. Had it for about 3 months now and wished id never signed a contract.

awrnsmn

Well thanks for the useless info.....and you posted this why???

Trekker

It took you 3 months to detect all those problems? Did it work perfectly the first 30 days and then all of a sudden things went downhill?

a1aone

With 3 post you sound more like a troll...!

awrnsmn

That should of all been figured out in the first week. Could of returned it and walked away.

dallashigh

That describes 95% of all smartphones on the market. Pick your poison.