General Pre Complaints - Page 83

michaelrj · 11/14/2009, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxLOL

Patience is a virtue rarely practiced.

Now, because you are the most patient person around please tell me and everyone else how long should someone wait to be able to use a cell phone the way it was made for?

1 year, 2 years?

I usually change phones about every year not because I did not like them but because I always like the newest devices.

The Pre is almost 6 months old 1/2 of its life for me so how much longer should I wait until I express my thoughts on trying to use a Pda phone as a PDA phone?

1.) 0-full bars in 3 seconds flat with the phone in the exact same spot... I have been waiting 6 months already

2.) Be able to download more than 40 Apps from the App catalog...
Been waiting 6 months already.

How much longer should we wait?

Thanks

MaxLOL · 11/14/2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelrj

Now, because you are the most patient person around please tell me and everyone else how long should someone wait to be able to use a cell phone the way it was made for?

1 year, 2 years?

I usually change phones about every year not because I did not like them but because I always like the newest devices.

The Pre is almost 6 months old 1/2 of its life for me so how much longer should I wait until I express my thoughts on trying to use a Pda phone as a PDA phone?

1.) 0-full bars in 3 seconds flat with the phone in the exact same spot... I have been waiting 6 months already

2.) Be able to download more than 40 Apps from the App catalog...
Been waiting 6 months already.

How much longer should we wait?

Thanks

I don't think you should wait any longer. You should probably get a different phone

I did a lot of reading before I decided upon this phone. All of its 'limitations' are not a problem for me. I can't think of anything that the phone doesn't currently do that I need it to. So whenever an update comes out I am happy to get something new. I live in an area where I have fantastic signal everywhere I go. I work at a place where I have my phone charger next to me all day. There is not one thing that I can gripe about. I guess I am lucky.

michaelrj · 11/14/2009, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxLOL

I don't think you should wait any longer. You should probably get a different phone

I did a lot of reading before I decided upon this phone. All of its 'limitations' are not a problem for me. I can't think of anything that the phone doesn't currently do that I need it to. So whenever an update comes out I am happy to get something new. I live in an area where I have fantastic signal everywhere I go. I work at a place where I have my phone charger next to me all day. There is not one thing that I can gripe about. I guess I am lucky.

Sounds like a plan PM me for my paypal email address so you can send me the $600 termination fees for the 3 Pre's I have.

fixxxer1022 · 11/14/2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sonjohn1

Not only did 1.3.1 offer up nothing significant I now have to go back to having useless icons (Nascar, NFL, Sprint TV etc.) on the Pre because Palm or Sprint thinks that I don't have the right to personalize my phone. Forget about voice recognition, better Bluetooth or visual voice mail, that would actually improve the phone. This will be my last Palm device. Even their App catalogue is filled with juvenile crap. What are you guys thinking? If this is the strategy that is supposedly going to save your company, you need to take another look at what you've accomplished. If it weren't for the home brew community this phone would have nothing to offer.
John

quit complaining, sell your phone and go buy something else. i just got my pre and i love it, best phone ive owned and im coming from winmo and a blackberry.

MaxLOL · 11/14/2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelrj

Sounds like a plan PM me for my paypal email address so you can send me the $600 termination fees for the 3 Pre's I have.

You had 30 days to decie whether or not this phone was for you. I am sorry that you didn't have enough time to evaluate whether or not it was a good fit.

acipollo · 11/14/2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sonjohn1

Everyone's entitled to their opinion and I welcome yours. If I wanted a toy I would have bought a GameBoy. Sprint & Palm represented this phone as the latest and greatest PDA device. After 6 months of updates I don't see it. I spent a lot of money for a promised feature set that hasn't materialized. Priorities at both companies seem to be misplaced.
John

It WAS the latest and ONE of the greatest devices back in June. Now, it is just one of many and it is quickly falling behind, and most phones are coming fresh out of the box with far more feature than the Pre. If another manufacturer throws in true multi tasking (like I am sure they will) I doubt Palm will survive.

At BB and Sprint (here in NY) in the past month, the reports show a handful of people buying the Pre and most everyone else buying iphone, Hero, and crappy Blackbery's

I still love the Pre though

michaelrj · 11/14/2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxLOL

You had 30 days to decie whether or not this phone was for you. I am sorry that you didn't have enough time to evaluate whether or not it was a good fit.

Don't be sorry....

You said I need to get rid of it and get a different phone so PM and give me my $600 already!!!!

If not then stop saying then just return it then

I thought I would give Palm the benifit of coming out with a new OS and wait for updates to fix things that should of not been a issue in the first place.

But waiting 6 months on basic Pda functions is ridiculous.

I am not even talking about all the BS like itunes syns, facebook, text forwarding etc..

We need a Pda phone to do what Pda phones have been doing for years.

fixxxer1022 · 11/14/2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by acipollo

It WAS the latest and ONE of the greatest devices back in June. Now, it is just one of many and it is quickly falling behind, and most phones are coming fresh out of the box with far more feature than the Pre. If another manufacturer throws in true multi tasking (like I am sure they will) I doubt Palm will survive.

At BB and Sprint (here in NY) in the past month, the reports show a handful of people buying the Pre and most everyone else buying iphone, Hero, and crappy Blackbery's

I still love the Pre though

the hero would be my first choice followed by the pre. but sprint screwed me over on the hero deal they offered so i went out and bought a pre on my own, i think i made the right choice.

MaxLOL · 11/14/2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelrj

Don't be sorry....

You said I need to get rid of it and get a different phone so PM and give me my $600 already!!!!

If not then stop saying then just return it then

I thought I would give Palm the benifit of coming out with a new OS and wait for updates to fix things that should of not been a issue in the first place.

But waiting 6 months on basic Pda functions is ridiculous.

I am not even talking about all the BS like itunes syns, facebook, text forwarding etc..

We need a Pda phone to do what Pda phones have been doing for years.

I never suggested you return it. I just said get a different one. If it is causing you that much grief I suggest you get another phone that will not causee you problems. I didn't make a mistake so I won't be giving you any money to foot the bill of your error

Elysian893 · 11/14/2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelrj

Don't be sorry....

You said I need to get rid of it and get a different phone so PM and give me my $600 already!!!!

If not then stop saying then just return it then

I thought I would give Palm the benifit of coming out with a new OS and wait for updates to fix things that should of not been a issue in the first place.

But waiting 6 months on basic Pda functions is ridiculous.

I am not even talking about all the BS like itunes syns, facebook, text forwarding etc..

We need a Pda phone to do what Pda phones have been doing for years.

What does the phone not do now that a basic PDA does? Maybe I'm not doing it right? My phone acts like a PDA quite well.

michaelrj · 11/14/2009, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysian893

What does the phone not do now that a basic PDA does? Maybe I'm not doing it right? My phone acts like a PDA quite well.

Well if you could read my sig. you would know

sonjohn1 · 11/14/2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bevcraw

I'm interested in knowing what features you were promised by the Palm rep that have not materialized.

You say that Palm's priorities are misplaced. If this forum has taught me anything, it is that the priorities of Pre owners are diverse. In deciding what features to include in any update, Palm is going to please some owners and displease others. I, for one, don't care at all about text forwarding, but it is clear from this forum that many Pre owners wanted this feature. I'm happy that they now have it -- I am not mad because Palm focused on text forwarding and not on other features I might be more interested in.

Beverly,
I appreciate your civility and please understand I'm not mad either, only disappointed. Of the many, the one that bothers me the most is voice dialing. I haven't had a phone in the last 8 years that didn't do that. In fact I decided not to update my wife's phone to a Pre for that very reason. The rep assured me it was just around the corner. I haven't yet said that I hate my phone, just that it will be the last Palm device I purchase unless they get it together. In my original post I gave credit to the homebrew community for responding and making this a better phone than Palm did. I still stand by that statement. I will also continue to enjoy this forum and all it has to offer.
John

Elysian893 · 11/14/2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelrj

Well if you could read my sig. you would know

Your signal issue sounds like a faulty phone, not Pre's in general. Should try to have Sprint replace it. My signal is always strong. 40 apps is quite a lot of apps, what can you not do with your phone with 40 apps? Wasn't there a study that said something like most iPhone users had 30 apps and used 4-5 of them on a regular basis? How much have you used 1.3.1? I've been playing all my games that used to stutter, and the stutter is non-existant, it's gone. Classic Solitaire is super smooth, Air Hockey is flawless. Even other apps I have have lost the stuttering.

As for homebrew, maybe you should do some research into Android, or people who jailbreak the iphone, they are doing things with their phone that the phone isn't designed to do, patches, complete rom's in Android's case. You think homebrew is a bad thing? You think it's wrong for homebrewers to enhance the functionality of the phone? That's the only reason you could complain, other than to be completely obtuse about the issue, just TRYING to find issue with Palm, for another reason to complain.

michaelrj · 11/14/2009, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Elysian893

Your signal issue sounds like a faulty phone, not Pre's in general. Should try to have Sprint replace it. My signal is always strong. 40 apps is quite a lot of apps, what can you not do with your phone with 40 apps? Wasn't there a study that said something like most iPhone users had 30 apps and used 4-5 of them on a regular basis? How much have you used 1.3.1? I've been playing all my games that used to stutter, and the stutter is non-existant, it's gone. Classic Solitaire is super smooth, Air Hockey is flawless. Even other apps I have have lost the stuttering.

Well according to this thread and many many others http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pr...lems-poll.html the signal is is well known problem. Accroding to Palm and sprint there is nothing wrong with my 3 Pre's. According to Sprint I am in Sprint's excellent coverage area and the phone goes from 0-full bars is 1-3 seconds with the phone in the exact same spot outside too.

I have a 8gb Phone why only have 40 Apps?
What the purpose of 8Gb then?
I just played Air Hockey & Topple ball Stuttering is still there within a couple minutes of play each.

wynand32 · 11/14/2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sonjohn1

I spent a lot of money for a promised feature set that hasn't materialized.

What is the "promised feature set" that hasn't materialized? Promised by Palm or Sprint, that is?

klbjr · 11/14/2009, 08:38 PM

Hahahaha!!!! Pre fan club in full strength I see! Wow! I just love how they suggest you just buy another phone, like we shouldn't expect anymore from the money we spent on this POS! Well another totally useless update! Way to go Palm! Please keep shooting yourself. Hopefully soon you will stop doing it in your foot and move to your head! 6 months, 4 or 5 updates and this phone still blows! I feel your pain sonjohn1. The Pre fan club can say what they want. The fact of the matter is we paid $300+ for a cutting edge smartphone and in return we got a mediocre device. Not only is this phone not a par with current smartphones on the market, it wasn't on par with smartphones at the time of release. You would think after 6 months and countless updates this phone would be untouchable. More like unbearable. Well I guess we can't complain too much. We did get text forwarding...(Come on WinMo 7! Show them how it's done)

MedicX · 11/14/2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by klbjr

Hahahaha!!!! Pre fan club in full strength I see! Wow! I just love how they suggest you just buy another phone, like we shouldn't expect anymore from the money we spent on this POS! Well another totally useless update! Way to go Palm! Please keep shooting yourself. Hopefully soon you will stop doing it in your foot and move to your head! 6 months, 4 or 5 updates and this phone still blows! I feel your pain sonjohn1. The Pre fan club can say what they want. The fact of the matter is we paid $300 for a cutting edge smartphone and in return we got a mediocre device. Not only is this phone not a par with current smartphones on the market, it wasn't on par with smartphones at the time of release. You would think after 6 months and countless updates this phone would be untouchable. More like unbearable. Well I guess we can't complain too much. We did get text forwarding...(Come on WinMo 7! Show them how it's done)

complain, complain. again... you bought the phone. only a ******* would buy something without giving it an adequate test drive. that goes for anything.

on top of that, why would you buy the Pre in the first place complainers, if it was such a crappy device outta the gate?... doesn't make sense right? kinda like complaining about what you could've avoided? i agree....

i Love the Pre. Love It. palm is on the right track. i'll be happy as more updates come out, but for now, the Pre is more than adequate as is.

Elysian893 · 11/14/2009, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by klbjr

Hahahaha!!!! Pre fan club in full strength I see! Wow! I just love how they suggest you just buy another phone, like we shouldn't expect anymore from the money we spent on this POS! Well another totally useless update! Way to go Palm! Please keep shooting yourself. Hopefully soon you will stop doing it in your foot and move to your head! 6 months, 4 or 5 updates and this phone still blows! I feel your pain sonjohn1. The Pre fan club can say what they want. The fact of the matter is we paid $300+ for a cutting edge smartphone and in return we got a mediocre device. Not only is this phone not a par with current smartphones on the market, it wasn't on par with smartphones at the time of release. You would think after 6 months and countless updates this phone would be untouchable. More like unbearable. Well I guess we can't complain too much. We did get text forwarding...(Come on WinMo 7! Show them how it's done)

I wouldn't say I'm a part of the Pre fan club, I'm actively trying to ditch mine. I'm a part of the logic and reason fan club though. I guess I'm just an idealist though, as that doesn't seem to exist in this thread.

craigdts · 11/14/2009, 09:04 PM

My wife discovered a new feature embedded in the 1.31 update! Something she's desired for so long and asked Palm for. Palm has finally heard the voices of the thousands who complain their significant other works too much.

Palm is now a family friendly company, it no longer bends to those evil companies and businesses

The slow/unresponsive calendar was enabled as a feature to force men and women everywhere to stop working away from the office and spend time with their family.

I don't look at my mobile calendar at home, I don't add appointments at home.

Palm now forces me to bring my laptop with me or not set up appointments.

Additionally this feature helps the economy, instead of me managing my calendar and appointments by myself, now I get to hire a secretary to sit at a computer and enter everts into outlook.

They really need to advertise these feature:

Palm is profamily and proeconomy!

Elysian893 · 11/14/2009, 09:05 PM

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