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berdinkerdickle · 12/22/2005, 06:00 PM

***ATTENTION***

I have Retired this Post as of "Updated Date" above.
Refer to the Posts (from others to follow) for updated info.

Recent Understanding Seems to Be:
Add Nothing to Rom, except what is Absolutely Necessary.
(Although Opinions Vary)

http://discuss.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=107543
http://www.grack.com/blog/articles/2...e-and-rom-size

And particularly:
http://discuss.treocentral.com/showp...&postcount=190

Understanding Brightens, or gets Clearer over Time.
So, even if the Current Understanding Changes, this Post Will Not.
If anyone would like to pick-up where I left off, your completely welcome.

Thanks to All,
for the assistance in sharing your experiences!

Fare Well,
And Love Your Treo!

So the List of apps, that MOST agree work in ROM, so far include:
(I will try to keep it alphabetical)

*** THIS LIST IS NOT PERSONALLY TESTED ***
*** BASED ON FORUM FEEDBACK ONLY ***

If you Brick your Treo:

Also, Some are having conflicting results w/ 1.20 ENA

ATTENTION:
AN ASTERISK "*" MEANS SOME HAVE HAD SUCCESS
W/ 1.20 (ENA or LAP) w/Fat32
(apps that still work w/ENA,Fat32)

*A-Speak
AcidImage.prc
ActNames.prc (from Agendus)
Aeroplayer (best to also include a skin other than the default one that comes with the app)
Agendus.prc (pro) too big for ROM - at least for CDMA
Agendus 10 (you MUST leave ToDo.bprc and ToDo_enUS.oprc in the base ROM for the application to work correctly - member: GatorFan)
Alerts
Audacity Pro
AvantageRx.prc
Avantgo.prc
Backup Plus
BackupBuddyVFS Needs Confimation (BackupBuddyVFS 3.2.15. Does Not)
BackupMan
BatteryPanel
*Bdicty v.5.7
Butler
Butler
*CardBkup v.2.1b
Card Export
Card Export II
CardExplorer
CardKeeper
Chatter
Cleanup (registered version)
ClipPRO-ClpP.prc
ClockPop 5.0b1
Colorize
Converter
Countdown Timer
CutPaste5
Dataviz Tech
DateBK5
Daynotz
Diddlebug
*DA v.3.22 (Directory Assistant)
Directory assistant – Some say No
*DocsToGo
Documents (to go.prc)
DopeWars
eReader (Does Not Work in 1.20 ENA - username: jaytee)
EWallet (prc only)
FieldPlus
*filepc2pda
*FileZ (from v.6.8.3)
Font Smooter (with some fonts)
Freedom
Graffiti Anywhere
Handbase (prc only)
HandyShop2.prc
*HandZipper Lite
HandZipper Lite (Ver bundled with snappermail)
Handzipper (normal ver) also works.
*iSilo.prc (from v.3.35 & up)
KB LightsOff
KeyCaps600 (version for 650)
*KeyguardTime+.prc
*KeyguardTime+enUS.prc (overlay)
*Keyshades Hack
Keyring
Launcher X 1.1.1 (the one with center button support)
Launcher X 1.1.2b (with five way button suport)
LaunchThis!
LEDOff
LifeBalance
LightWav
LXBrowser + LXOS5Standard (needed from some apps)
MaTirelire2
McPhling
Minefield
mNews v2.0 (cracked version)
*mVoice.prc
*mReset
*mRing
MyBible (prc only)
net select
net time
Note-Pad (grabbed from Zire simulator)
oncradleon
*PalmaryClock Screensaver v2.01
*PasswordsPlus
*PDFtoGo
PhoneTechnician (Still needs Confirmation)
PicsToGo
PetitLaunch
Pocket Technician initially did not work (does not show up), but after renaming it to Ptechnician.prc, it shows up and seems to work fine.
Pix_OS_OS5 (theme for ZLauncher)
Pockettunes.prc works, ptunes.prc does not. (Skins need to go in RAM)
ptunes version 3.1.1 will
*PowerRun
PowerUp
Prison
PXAClocker
QLaunch
Radio_Control
Rally1000
RescoExplorer
ResetMe
SheetToGo
ShortCut5
Shortcuts.prc & Shortcuts_enUS.prc
*SlovoEd.prc v4.13
Snap
snap dates
SnapCalc
*SnapperMail
Snappermail (enterprise edition)
SnapperMail (Premier Bundle)
SOIC - Stay On In Cradle
SoftReset
Softick Card Export II
*SplashID v3.32 and Lang Files (Splash_XXXX.prc)
STOIC
Switch5
SyncAll
Takephone
TCPMP (note: required codecs must be installed in RAM or as 'nonobeez' says and 'berdinkerdickle' agrees: "All TCPMP related files work from SD, I would suggest putting them in there instead. You need an SD card anyways.")
Technician
Today
Today2.2
treoalarm
TreoAlertManager
Treoguard
treohelper
TreoHelper Version 0.70
TreoShutter v.2.0
Twilight
Uninstall Manager
UnistallManager.prc
Voicedial by Voice Signal
VoiceMemo
VolumeRocker
WideFind for Treo and Bluetooth 1.0
YAHM
Yatzee
*ZLauncher (include one zlauncher theme)
Zlauncher (.PRC + Skin + Background)
ZLauncher (v5.2 to v5.3.1)

Programs that most agree don't work in ROM

2day
4cast
BackupBuddyVFS 3.2.15. (member: conum)
BBVFS does not work in ROM (member: Gatorfan)
CallFilter v1.31
flight status
keycaps
LispMe
mDesk
Obfuscate
Pippy
PocketC
Pockettunes 3.1.3 definitely doesn't work when placed in ROM (conum)
PTunes.prc
SplashPhoto.prc
SEVEN (aka Sprint Business Connection)

Variable performance-loses preferences and registration

AckWire
BigClock
Microbe
PXA Clocker
RsrcEdit
VoiceLauncher
Xiino

This is what I have put together so far.
I will continue to add to this list as more posts come in.

REMEMBER, ONLY .prc files go in the ROM, not .pdb files!!!

Aussietanker Found This in another Thread
by cwtibbs
Issue:
Stuck in a Reset Loop

Possible Solution:
Tech Support Recommends 2 different ways to reset. Hold the power button (red phone) and put it in the battery, when you get to the second logo screen let go. If that one did't work?
Hold the up arrow on the 5 way, put in the battery, release at second logo screen, This should get you to the phone screen.

Also Notice:
http://mytreo.net/treofaq/Treo650ROMFaq

12/22/2005, 06:00 PM	#75 (permalink)
berdinkerdickle Tazmorator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Treo\|Central when the light below is green. Otherwise; I could be just about anywhere. Posts: 6,643 Thanks: 832 Thanked 526 Times in 411 Posts	Updated 02/24/06 *ATTENTION* I have Retired this Post as of "Updated Date" above. Refer to the Posts (from others to follow) for updated info. Recent Understanding Seems to Be: Add Nothing to Rom, except what is Absolutely Necessary. (Although Opinions Vary) http://discuss.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=107543 http://www.grack.com/blog/articles/2...e-and-rom-size And particularly: http://discuss.treocentral.com/showp...&postcount=190 Understanding Brightens, or gets Clearer over Time. So, even if the Current Understanding Changes, this Post Will Not. If anyone would like to pick-up where I left off, your completely welcome. Thanks to All, for the assistance in sharing your experiences! Fare Well, And Love Your Treo! So the List of apps, that MOST agree work in ROM, so far include: (I will try to keep it alphabetical) * THIS LIST IS NOT PERSONALLY TESTED * * BASED ON FORUM FEEDBACK ONLY * If you Brick your Treo: Also, Some are having conflicting results w/ 1.20 ENA ATTENTION: AN ASTERISK "" MEANS SOME HAVE HAD SUCCESS W/ 1.20 (ENA or LAP) w/Fat32 (apps that still work w/ENA,Fat32) A-Speak AcidImage.prc ActNames.prc (from Agendus) Aeroplayer (best to also include a skin other than the default one that comes with the app) Agendus.prc (pro) too big for ROM - at least for CDMA Agendus 10 (you MUST leave ToDo.bprc and ToDo_enUS.oprc in the base ROM for the application to work correctly - member: GatorFan) Alerts Audacity Pro AvantageRx.prc Avantgo.prc Backup Plus BackupBuddyVFS Needs Confimation (BackupBuddyVFS 3.2.15. Does Not) BackupMan BatteryPanel Bdicty v.5.7 Butler Butler CardBkup v.2.1b Card Export Card Export II CardExplorer CardKeeper Chatter Cleanup (registered version) ClipPRO-ClpP.prc ClockPop 5.0b1 Colorize Converter Countdown Timer CutPaste5 Dataviz Tech DateBK5 Daynotz Diddlebug DA v.3.22 (Directory Assistant) Directory assistant – Some say No DocsToGo Documents (to go.prc) DopeWars eReader (Does Not Work in 1.20 ENA - username: jaytee) EWallet (prc only) FieldPlus filepc2pda FileZ (from v.6.8.3) Font Smooter (with some fonts) Freedom Graffiti Anywhere Handbase (prc only) HandyShop2.prc HandZipper Lite HandZipper Lite (Ver bundled with snappermail) Handzipper (normal ver) also works. iSilo.prc (from v.3.35 & up) KB LightsOff KeyCaps600 (version for 650) KeyguardTime+.prc KeyguardTime+enUS.prc (overlay) Keyshades Hack Keyring Launcher X 1.1.1 (the one with center button support) Launcher X 1.1.2b (with five way button suport) LaunchThis! LEDOff LifeBalance LightWav LXBrowser + LXOS5Standard (needed from some apps) MaTirelire2 McPhling Minefield mNews v2.0 (cracked version) mVoice.prc mReset mRing MyBible (prc only) net select net time Note-Pad (grabbed from Zire simulator) oncradleon PalmaryClock Screensaver v2.01 PasswordsPlus PDFtoGo PhoneTechnician (Still needs Confirmation) PicsToGo PetitLaunch Pocket Technician initially did not work (does not show up), but after renaming it to Ptechnician.prc, it shows up and seems to work fine. Pix_OS_OS5 (theme for ZLauncher) Pockettunes.prc works, ptunes.prc does not. (Skins need to go in RAM) ptunes version 3.1.1 will PowerRun PowerUp Prison PXAClocker QLaunch Radio_Control Rally1000 RescoExplorer ResetMe SheetToGo ShortCut5 Shortcuts.prc & Shortcuts_enUS.prc SlovoEd.prc v4.13 Snap snap dates SnapCalc SnapperMail Snappermail (enterprise edition) SnapperMail (Premier Bundle) SOIC - Stay On In Cradle SoftReset Softick Card Export II SplashID v3.32 and Lang Files (Splash_XXXX.prc) STOIC Switch5 SyncAll Takephone TCPMP (note: required codecs must be installed in RAM or as 'nonobeez' says and 'berdinkerdickle' agrees: "All TCPMP related files work from SD, I would suggest putting them in there instead. You need an SD card anyways.") Technician Today Today2.2 treoalarm TreoAlertManager Treoguard treohelper TreoHelper Version 0.70 TreoShutter v.2.0 Twilight Uninstall Manager UnistallManager.prc Voicedial by Voice Signal VoiceMemo VolumeRocker WideFind for Treo and Bluetooth 1.0 YAHM Yatzee ZLauncher (include one zlauncher theme) Zlauncher (.PRC + Skin + Background) ZLauncher (v5.2 to v5.3.1) Programs that most agree don't work in ROM 2day 4cast BackupBuddyVFS 3.2.15. (member: conum) BBVFS does not work in ROM (member: Gatorfan) CallFilter v1.31 flight status keycaps LispMe mDesk Obfuscate Pippy PocketC Pockettunes 3.1.3 definitely doesn't work when placed in ROM (conum) PTunes.prc SplashPhoto.prc SEVEN (aka Sprint Business Connection) Variable performance-loses preferences and registration AckWire BigClock Microbe PXA Clocker RsrcEdit VoiceLauncher Xiino This is what I have put together so far. I will continue to add to this list as more posts come in. REMEMBER, ONLY .prc files go in the ROM, not .pdb files!!! Aussietanker Found This in another Thread by cwtibbs Issue: Stuck in a Reset Loop Possible Solution: Tech Support Recommends 2 different ways to reset. Hold the power button (red phone) and put it in the battery, when you get to the second logo screen let go. If that one did't work? Hold the up arrow on the 5 way, put in the battery, release at second logo screen, This should get you to the phone screen. Also Notice: http://mytreo.net/treofaq/Treo650ROMFaq Last edited by berdinkerdickle; 02/27/2006 at 04:22 AM.