Ehsan

It appears to be that we are going to have numerous threads for each software working or not working on treo 800w. So I am volunteering to update list of software that work or not work (Yet). I will update as someone reports them here.

As for now I read in different threads that most of software having screen resolution issues with Treo 800W.
Styletap is working. I will monitor other threads and read this thread to update this post.

Thanks skfny, Malatesta, Darth Pooh, b3tt3r, techgeek32, VaccPalm, posters in thread from WMexperts [ 800w - What Software / Mods will you use? ] and everyone else

You guys can update list here as well. This is created by member Rex.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...YbAXkuMg&hl=en

Working:
Styletap
Access Netfront
Opera 9.5
Omega One 1-Calc
Evernote
Opera Mini
Skyfire latest beta
Spb weather works
Today Agenda
TCPMP works. [Download from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387 (need login)]
Beejive Instant messenger
Flexmail 4 (icons are screwed up a bit)
Kevtris (tetris clone)
GPS Speed Sentry
Agenda One
Pocket Weather
Ultimate Launcher
Resco File manager
Resco Picture Viewer
Pocket Navigator works (per NRG)
Google maps (for many it works out of the box without any tweaks) ([i][color="DarkSlateBlue"]Its working with this fix per skfny post:
"Try the settings I have above.
COM7 under GPS settings
Manual under GMaps settings then COM7 and 4800 baud".
Garmin XT
PocketXPDF
SPB time (display part is very small per NRG, but it works)
Opera Mobile 8.65 (working but gives error at beginning when open, after that its just usual, I tried it myself )
Resco Brain Games
PDANet
Datetime2 reg hack
eWallet (NRG)
Microsoft Reader (NRG)
Agendus (Fabulas)
Pocket Tunes (work with 320x320 skin)
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta (QVGA) works great.
Soft Reset (Hack works)


Not Working:
Apps [mostly] that are not 320x320 compatible [waiting for Nyditit I guess http://www.nyditot.com/Home.asp]
Skype
Sling Player
Astraware Casino works, but is way small on the screen. (per NRG)
Pocket Informant 8
SPB Pocket Plus-All versions
s2u2 from xda
Most games will not work right
Expense Plus-All versions
Sirius
Pocket Bible (mostly functional) Version 3 and 4
Omega One Battery Pack Pro
GSPlayer (loads and plays music, but controls are garbled, difficult to use, Okashira)
Ctrl Key Pro
Hidelogocab
Handmark yahtzee
Nyditot
Resco recorder
resco backup
iGuidance (find the internal GPS just fine with GPSGate, but it doesn't work well with the 320x320 screen, angrytaxman)
Magmic Spades (Splashscreen loads, then freezes the app, NRG)
IntelliGolf (very, very slight skewing of score lines, NRG)
Today Agenda (NRG)
PiePlus ( per Darth Pooh, PiePlus looks like absolute crap... it just distorts the whole window.... it does not like 320 x 320.)

Waiting for verification:
will list all apps that are not tested but folks are requesting.

Palringo (IM Software)
Tank Ace 1944
Machines At War 1.1
Tetris 2.0
Isotope244 Atomic Cannon
NES Emulator 1.9.1
Warfare Incorporated 1.2
Ctrl Key Pro - this is an absolute timesaver. 60 apps only 2 seconds away!
Resco Explorer w/ FTP and Today plug-ins - I'll be doing a lot of file browsing during the installation process so I might as well get the best and install it early
GS Player
CardExport
WWWiFiRouter.com (getting errors)
Keylight
DTG (Palm)
Device Lock
Hidelogocab
Today Agenda
Resco Picture Viewer
XCast
Splash Money
Palringo
Slovo Ed
GPSTuner
1-Calc
PIEPlus
Resco Recorder
UPX - although I won't be using it nearly as much
XPU Scalar - may not work with a new processor type
MortScript
PTVBrowser (Palm)
Metro (Palm)
Bee Line GPS
GPS Speed Sentry
eReader (Palm)
Stock Broker Pro (Palm)
PPC Geeks' Picsel Viewer
Resco Radio
MusicID
Pocket Stars
VITO Sound Editor
VITO Sound Explorer
CityTime


*Tools / Hacks*
Soft Reset
SPB Backup
Random regs (datetime2, cDate2
SK Tools
SK Schema
Tweaks 2k2
MemMaid
Phone w/ disconnect
PocketRar
Opera Mini as Default Browser Hack
USB Modem
Active Print

*Games*
PocketGBA - should work without NYDITOT on the 320x320 screen
SmartGear
MorphGear
Sudoku
T-Blaster
FPSECE

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Man, I'd love to see opera 9.5 working well on a Treo.... :/

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skfny

Thanks for making this list. I posted in the "what do you want to know thread" about creating a MortScript that invokes Nyditot when running apps that are known to be incompatible with the 320x320 screen.

It sounds like someone has tried running Slingbox this way on the i780 and it works.

I haven't even had time to install all these apps, but is Sling isn't working, I'll not be happy on my travels this coming week.

AIM Messenger Beta looks awful. The text is readable but painful. It tries to stretch 240x240 to fit 320x320 and the results are not impressive.

Ehsan

I might survive for a little bit on opera mini but if opera mobile(9.5) didn't work when it came out of beta I would be really ****ed.

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vicn77

I've tried HTC Home forgot what version, it installs fine by doesn't show up on the today screen. Tried a soft reboot still nothing.
Quick Menu installs fine but some of the graphics is off. Icons are off, status (options to show battery % or bar, memory, etc in the top right corner of screen) graphics are off also, only guessing that it's not built for the 320x320 screen.

Ehsan

Big question will be, since there are not many cell phone companies who make devices with 320x320 screen; will most of developers update their apps to include 320x320 support? I am not sure about workaround you mentioned to make many apps to work. It might work little while but official support needs to be added to many apps otherwise this forums will cry and cry .

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How about Dashwire or the PPCgeek sMMS program?

cheifsfan

I really hope slingplayer and any other 240x240 app will be fixed to work well with this phone. I am not going to buy this phone if I have to deal with stretched instant messanger text, small slingbox video, and other issues. I really hope someone figures something out really quick. I think this is a huge issue no one thought about before the release....

SpriteGF

I have a feeling that many developers won't. PDAMill, one of the largest game developers for the Pocket PC, has actively shunned the Treo's unique 240x240 screen (http://www.pdamill.com/ppc_arm.shtml), so it makes me wonder if they'd even support 320x320.

Has anyone tried any games, esp. those from Astraware? Do those apps run in 240x320?

Does Styletap show Palm OS applications at its full 320x320 resolution?

techgeek32

Software having problems with 320x320:
Pocket Informant 8
SPB Pocket Plus-All versions
Most games will not work right
Expense Plus-All versions
Sirius
Pocket Bible (mostly functional) Version 3 and 4
Omega One Battery Pack Pro

Software that is working

Omega One 1-Calc
Evernote

I have already contacted the affected software developers and they are aware of the problems. Many might not decide to support this resolution or make costly changes as most WM 6.1 phones moving forward are either going to be VGA or QVGA resolution. We might be out of luck!

b3tt3r

as I noted in a previous post...

Here's my current list (All expected to work good with 320x320):

TCPMP Divx Codec (Watch Divx Movies)
Palringo (IM Software)
Slingbox Mobile (DOESN't WORK... Hopefully patch/ or till 2.0)
TomTom Navigator 6
Tank Ace 1944
Machines At War 1.1
Tetris 2.0
Isotope244 Atomic Cannon
NES Emulator 1.9.1
Netfront
Warfare Incorporated 1.2
MMS = sMMS (look for it at ppcgeeks)
WiFi = peek pocket
Music = Pocket Tunes for WM (they already have 320x320 skins and Treo support)


And I hate to cross post but here is a ton more...
http://discussion.wmexperts.com/showthread.php?t=166301

Malatesta

doubt that very, very much.

it is actually relatively easy to adjust their programs for 320x320 and could be done with a 0.1 update (minor). It's a standardized resolution within WM6 and they should support it as MS made it easy to do so.

Notice how most apps work with 240x240 today? same thing, same history.

We'll just have to take a few weeks to wait for developers to catch up and yeah, drop your favorite developer an email--don't assume they know.

VaccPalm

Pocket Tunes works but its got the same issue as SlingPlayer. little tiny screen .

So my list of not working so far is

Slingplayer
Pockettunes

Edited : Pocket tunes works fine with the correct skin

Roloc

Here is a picture taken from a 700wx of google maps running with gps on the 800w



not sure why the picture isn't showing up... go here http://picasaweb.google.com/Roloc59/...84268174775442

Malatesta

Vacc...

PocketTunes should most definitely work...did you add the 320x320 free skin to enable it? You have to..

http://www.pocket-tunes.com/skins/in...Mo&cat=320x320

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Ehsan

with so many software missing at the moment I might wait for my rushing to Sprint store on Sunday.

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skfny

I'm going to nag the makers of Nyditot to get on the 800w case. If that app worked, so too would 99% of all WM apps.

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Malatesta

THANK YOU!!! . The help you and other are giving is terriffc Much appreciated.

Ehsan

Amen to that. Also it depends how much faith developers have in Palm for future Treos on window mobile. If Palm is going to release future treos with same screen size for near future; many developers may rush to update their applications. But the way Treo 800W is being released [people getting treos in their hands and Palm dont even have press release up yet] it is hard to see why developers even will try.

I hope for best but I have my doubts about Nyditot. If it is working I will buy Treo 800w in heartbeat.

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Bob-C

Anyone test Agendus? I NEED icons for my calendar. Agendus is a MUST have.

Thx